A/C system......in or out ?
 

Is the a/c really so useless that I should just get rid of it ?? Charging is not a problem as I can still get R12 for free but if it doesn't work that well any way then why bother ?....

R12 for free? Who do you know and how can I meet them?
A/C on the 88 works OK. If you don't mind sweating then rip it out. I have 40-50 degrees coming out of the vent even when its 90 something outside (as long as I am moving). When it heats up (sitting in the parking lot) it will take about 5-10 minutes to cool down but after that it is comfort city.

You can have a tank of R12 the size of a 55 gallon drum sitting in your passenger seat and the car still wouldn't be cold. Germans don't know air conditioning.

Out... remove all comps/hoses etc... = 80-90 lbs... (more maybe)= instant HP...

Aus.

Achtung Klima Anlage!

Klima Anlagen Raus!!

If you want A/C and have $1500 you are willing to spend on it to make it work marginally OK, then don't take it out.

If you don't want to sink money in to it , and you want to lose some weight, then rip it out.

rip it out.

Took mine out and haven't regretted it for an instant, even during 250-mile road trips to Watkins Glen on high-80s days. Of course New York isn't Houston...

Stephan

it was over 90 degrees outside and I had to turn my air down because it was to cold
 

after replacing my 84 TL with the 87 TL I decided that at least one of my Porsche's should have air that blows cold so I took the car over to Scott's independent ( AKA - performance aire ) They specialize in making 911's blow cold air .

here is a link showing what they did, if you click on the pictures it enlarges the pictures and explains what they are doing

http://www.scottsind.com/Navigation/WorkInProgress/SamC/WIPSamCFrame.htm

it's not a cheap upgrade, but then again nothing that really works ever is.

Great ,now I'm really confused.....I guess I'll see how it works first as the S.O. is a creature of comfort (not that she's going to driving it much!!)..........
Also ,what is the small illuminated arrow that points upward in my tach ??...
Sam.

I went down this same diecision path about two months ago and decided to keep mine and charge it with Duracool. First, removing the A/C will hurt the marketability if/when you decide to sell it. Second, using Duracool (Propane) is not harmful to the environment when it leaks out. Just buy a case and charge it when needed.

if your talking about the upshift light in the middle of the tach I had it removed when I had my gauges done, the last thing I needed is the car telling me when to shift.

Re: A/C system......in or out ?
 

Why are you asking us? :D

Seriously, do you like to sweat? No, you're not going to be able to hang any meat in your car without some modifications, BUT a properly working stock A/C does OK and makes Summer driving much more comfortable. My '86 is bone-stock and works rather well. I would keep it, unless you're going to make it a track-only car.

I've been struggling with this same decision for some time now.

I charged the system up last summer and it worked, sort of. Never got below 55 degrees at the vent.
in order to make it work I will have to spend some bucks.
I don't know if I will ever do that, I only drive the car occasionally and might want to use the air conditioner maybe 10 days a year. I haven't even installed the AC belt since the last time I had it off in November.
In the mean time it's just dead weight.
Since it doesn't work very well now I guess I could always just remove the compressor and condensor and leave the hoses in place (sealed of course) and reinstall the parts if I ever get the bug to fix it right.
Plus to install a decent intercooler I will have to lose the condensor anyway or move it to a different location.

What to do...............

Doesn't the 'cool collar' help bring down a/c vent temps? :confused:

I upgraded my car with the Performance Aire parts and DIY in 2000 was around $1K. But it hasn't needed a recharge in 4 years. Diane was very helpful in the process. Even superheated, my car cools down not to frigid levels but nice enough to evaporate sweat on a 95+ day in Dallas TX.

I wish they had the triple row cooler when I was re-doing mine.

Lee 78SC Met silver w/ Black interior.

How long have you had the car???

If you managed a full summer without using it much, you will never notice it being gone.

I had mine in for 6 years, never used it because it didn't blow cold... Had it charged then it blew a bit colder. Well, after getting the "lightweight" bug I rationalized that I NEVER used it for 5 years and used it a couple of times when it was "better"... SO, do I NEED it? NO. I live in Colorado. Summers can get pretty warm here and I have a black interior. My car was my daily for two years. No problems... The best thing I did was to leave in the blower and tint my windows... and remove the A/C.:D

For the record, I am one of those that sunk a ton of money into the A/C - and it now works great. I would do it again.

Ironically, I still drive around with the windows down but with the A/C running full blast just to enjoy the mechanical orchestra.