All else equal, do 25th Anniversary cars command a premium over "regular" 911s?

[mmm]

Just found a 1989 25th Anniversary car....

Anyone know what the 1989 25th Anniversary package included?

[bigrubberjeep]

Color matching wheels

[jkarolyi]

The interior was special, with the turbo console and dark piping on the seats. I've heard that these were the very last old coupes off the line before switching to the C2/C4, so that alone makes them special. Can anyone verify?

[steve911]

The Red Book has some conflicting information. On pg 82 the Anniversary Carrera is described as a 1988.

"The Anniversary Carrera was offered in a limited production run to commemorate the 250,000th 911, which was made on June 3, 1987. Special Silver Blue exterior paint and a blue leather interior were used on the 875 cars produced. Of these, 300 went to the US."

On pg 97, again as a 1988, the Anniversary Carrera: "Commemorated 25 years of 911 production. The exterior was Marine Blue Metallic with a blue metallic leather interior featuring an "F.Porsche" signature on the headrests. Carpeting was Silver Blue silk velour, There was no external identification, but the cars did have an "anniversary" dash plaque. A total of 875 cares were produced, and 300 came to the United States - 120 Coupes, 100 Cabriolets, and 80 Targas."

[Yellowbird RS]

The 1975 model year also saw limited production of a 25th Anniversary 911 and S, both of which were upgraded with a series of interesting options. A thicker rear anti-roll bar, five-speed gearbox. Whilst all 1063 examples were completed in Diamond Silver metallic paintwork with ‘Black-Look’ chrome deletion. Interiors got a three-spoke sports steering wheel (from the Carrera) and special silver and black tweed trim. Available as a Coupe or Targa, all were fitted with a numbered plaque on the passenger side of the dash to celebrate Porsche’s 25th year of sports car manufacture.
http://vista.pca.org/stl/911silv.htm

[Yellowbird RS]

In 1988 there was a run of 875 cars called "Commemorative Special Edition" 911s which commemorated the 250,000th 911 to roll off the production line.

This 911 was available as a Coupe, Cabriolet, or Targa. Testifying to its unique status is a special edition plaque which can be personalized with the owners name. Ferry Porsche's signature is on the headrest, special Silver Blue partial Leather interior, and luxury carpet treatment on the inside. On the exterior, Diamond Blue Metallic exterior finish accented by color keyed wheel centers. This 911 comes with a comprehensive list of features (such as special leather, shortened shift lever, power sunroof) which, while optional on the standard models, are included in the Special Edition package.

[mmm]

Originally posted by steve911
The Red Book has some conflicting information. On pg 82 the Anniversary Carrera is described as a 1988.

"The Anniversary Carrera was offered in a limited production run to commemorate the 250,000th 911, which was made on June 3, 1987. Special Silver Blue exterior paint and a blue leather interior were used on the 875 cars produced. Of these, 300 went to the US."

On pg 97, again as a 1988, the Anniversary Carrera: "Commemorated 25 years of 911 production. The exterior was Marine Blue Metallic with a blue metallic leather interior featuring an "F.Porsche" signature on the headrests. Carpeting was Silver Blue silk velour, There was no external identification, but the cars did have an "anniversary" dash plaque. A total of 875 cares were produced, and 300 came to the United States - 120 Coupes, 100 Cabriolets, and 80 Targas."

If I recall correctly there were two sets of special edition cars in close succession:

1988: There was a limited run series of special edition cars to commemorate 250,000 911s built to date.

1989: There was a limited run series of special edition cars to commemorate 25 years of the 911 (i.e. 1964 through 1989).

I'm not sure of the other details about the cars though.

[bigrubberjeep]

Originally posted by mmm
Just found a 1989 25th Anniversary car....

Anyone know what the 1989 25th Anniversary package included?

Are you looking for a limited edition G50 car?

What kind of use is it for? Storage "Collector"or Some track and street driving?

[mmm]

Originally posted by bigrubberjeep
Are you looking for a limited edition G50 car?

What kind of use is it for? Storage "Collector"or Some track and street driving?

Am I looking for one? Well, I'm looking for a G50, preferrably 1989, the more collectable the better.

Use will be daily and/or weekend driver mostly street at this point. Perhaps some track and DE in the future for fun, but mostly street, and nothing too extreme to run the risk of balling it up (hopefully).

Just wondering how much of a "bonus feature" the 25th Anniversary is, in addition to other trade offs between cars I am considering.

[bigrubberjeep]

Originally posted by mmm
Am I looking for one? Well, I'm looking for a G50, preferrably 1989, the more collectable the better.

Use will be daily and/or weekend driver mostly street at this point. Perhaps some track and DE in the future for fun, but mostly street, and nothing too extreme to run the risk of balling it up (hopefully).

Just wondering how much of a "bonus feature" the 25th Anniversary is, in addition to other trade offs between cars I am considering.

Have you looked at the Turbo Look models? They are pretty rare.

Not to mention they are civilized with power windows and stuff, so if you ever want to get serious about doing some track events you could just gut it out.

[white87911]

Well, I f you want the best car you can get, then get the best car you can get. I personally do not care for the Anniversery cars, etc. When I bought my car I traveled about 1,200 miles to look at 2 "all original cars" and they were not. I finally drove 700 miles to Ohio to by a purely unmolested 15,000 mile 87 911. As far as the car go, I would go with the one that has changed the least.

If the radio / speaker were changed, who know if the cut up the wiring harness or door panels. If the ehaust was changed, is the cat still there. Some peoplke change steering wheels, if the original one is not here, it might be very dificualt to find a original if it is of an off color.

Besides if someone is going to mess up your car it might as well be you. Therefore, I say, buy the most original, well maintained, unmiolested car you can find. That way you know what you are getting and as long as you dont screw it up, the resale value will be there.

Just my 2 cents.

Erik

[mmm]

Originally posted by bigrubberjeep
Have you looked at the Turbo Look models? They are pretty rare.

Not to mention they are civilized with power windows and stuff, so if you ever want to get serious about doing some track events you could just gut it out.

Turbo look doesn't really interest me unless it's otherwise the right car. I kinda like the Carrera non-turbo look as well or better and am not sure that the additional premiums the turbo look cars command would be worth it to me in total, despite their added collectability.

Right now I'm looking at basically 2 cars, one regular 1989 911 in a brown metallic color I'm not quite sure about but great condition overall and much closer to me, and one 1989 25th anniversary silver 911 much further away, in as of yet uncertain condition, but with fewer miles and a much higher asking price.

Both appear to be in great shape, but I've not seen either in person yet. The first car is enthusiast owned and I've talked enough with the owner to know that it's in really good shape. Not sure if the owner of the other is really a Porsche or car enthusiast and if he's really done everything he should to care for the car despite the low miles, although it looks great in the pictures I've seen.

[bigrubberjeep]

No worries, any Carrera is a good choice, the one you like would be the best choice.

[APorscheOne]

The Red Book information is incorrect regarding the
"Silver Anniversary Edition". They inadverdantly listed
the "Commerative/Signature edition specs for the SAE.

The SAE was a MY 1989 production of 500 cars. Of those
300 were coupes, 240 Silver Metallic in color and 60 in
Satin Black Metallic.
200 Cabs. were produced, 160 in Silver Metallic and 40 in
Satin Black Metallic.

All 500 had a Silk Grey leather interior, including supple leather
seats w/black piping.

I'll start another thread listing all the other options, including
the 5 "Exclusiv" options for this model. As the info I found
after doing a search, was either incorrect or not complete.

If you need more info. immediately MMM, you may PM or give
me a call on my cell. phone (626) 230.6530

[KFC911]

The '88s were Commemorative Editions (Diamond Blue Metallic w/ the signature on the seats), and the '89s were Anniversary Editions (most silver w/ a few black ones). They are really only different cosmetically, but all that I have seen personally have been VERY well maintained Carreras. I purchased a Commemorative Edition because I looked at one, fell in love with the Diamond Blue Metallic color (but alas there was a waiting buyer ahead of me) so when one showed up on Rennlist the next day, I jumped on it. They are not particularly rare (I've seen several CEs for sale in the last couple of years), and I have modded the hell out of mine. IMO, get one because it's a G-50 3.2 if that's what you're looking for...not because of the package (I would have jumped on any Diamond Blue 87-89). Here's a pic of mine:

[mmm]

Originally posted by APorscheOne
The Red Book information is incorrect regarding the
"Silver Anniversary Edition". They inadverdantly listed
the "Commerative/Signature edition specs for the SAE.

The SAE was a MY 1989 production of 500 cars. Of those
300 were coupes, 240 Silver Metallic in color and 60 in
Satin Black Metallic.
200 Cabs. were produced, 160 in Silver Metallic and 40 in
Satin Black Metallic.

All 500 had a Silk Grey leather interior, including supple leather
seats w/black piping.

I'll start another thread listing all the other options, including
the 5 "Exclusiv" options for this model. As the info I found
after doing a search, was either incorrect or not complete.

If you need more info. immediately MMM, you may PM or give
me a call on my cell. phone (626) 230.6530

Can you give me a link to the new thread your starting? Don't want to miss it.

[APorscheOne]

I don't have all the info in front of me, so it probably won't be until
tomorrow. I'll take digital photos(I don't have a scanner) this evening of the window sticker, as well as the Porsche literature regarding this edition.

[nostatic]

your purposes seem somewhat at odds. I wouldn't take a collectible car to the track. Nor would I use it as a daily driver (if you want it to remain collectible). imho, you need to narrow what you think you want to do with the car and then buy the best example that fits with your needs and psyche. If you want a daily driver that does track duty (that's what mine is), I wouldn't be looking at paying a premium for *anything* that someone considered "collectible." Just find a solid car, perferably one that some has already modded in a way you like (or bone stock if you want to start from scratch and burn a lot of money), buy it and be happy.

There have been plenty of cases of people buying very nice examples, then they are too paranoid to actually use the damn thing. I was somewhat in that camp (although mine has been a daily driver since I bought it) until my concrete incident. Since then, I've been modding away with drills and saws and whatever else is needed. No going back now...

And from someone who's been there, done that...you're over analyzing this. Find a solid car in a color you like, buy it, and drive the snot out of it. The perfect car does not exist. The perfect drive does...and it is every time I turn the key. But until you've got the car, you don't get the drive.

[Ferrariguyma]

commemorate the 250,000 911 built and Ferry Porsche's 75th Birthday.

[KFC911]

I'd like to clarify the '88s (and there is a lot of mis-information floating around - both published and on web sites)... as I have an official Porsche marketing brochure at home that confirms this. They are officially called 'Commemorative Editions'... I have never heard the term 'Celebration Edition' used before, but it is common to see the slang terms 'Signature Edition' and 'Jubilee Edition' thrown around (they are all describing the '88s). No where is the term 'Anniversary' used in the marketing of the '88s. It's no wonder that there is a lot of confusion about these models.