Too good to be true? Thoughts on this ding? NOW WITH PIC!
 

Found a really nice Carrera I was really excited about, until I
learned about this ding, and now I'm not sure what to think....

http://cbesselievre.home.att.net/img_0134.jpg

I've not yet seen this car in person yet as it is not local to me
(someone from this site has been gracious enough to arrange to
go and check it out for me tomorrow).

From what I understand so far and the pictures I've seen the car
is probably about as good as they come otherwise. Low miles,
really excellent condition. I'm just not sure what to make of this
ding. Quite a shame for such an otherwise nice example.

How big a downer is this on the car's value? Repairable via one
of those paintless dent removal places? I'm not sure but I
wonder if the paint is damaged enough that trying to push it out
would be a bad idea. And I'm not sure how accessable that area
would be from behind. Wondering if this will be a deal breaker...

Thoughts?

If the car is going in a museum I'd take a pass but if you're gonna drive it don't worry too much. That ding could happen anywhere that you leave it parked for more than 10 minutes.

A paintless dent remover won't be able to help you with that as I don't think they can get behind it, and it looks too deep to get out totally.

This should be easily fixed by a good shop so I wouldn't let it be a deal breaker.
I had my 20 year old Black metallic paint matched perfectly a while back but I'm not sure how hard it is to match that color.

It is in a spot that would bug me enough to get it fixed.

Tell us more about the car. :)

It's not in the middle of the door or hood. Small areas like that are easy to blend.

Is this the sort of thing that would be better to have a good body shop fix or better to just leave as is? Wonder how much having that corrected would cost? Probably a lot more than I'd like to think.

From what I understand from photos and talking to the owner, the car is a low miles otherwise excellent 1989 Carrera 3.2 FWIW.

Prior to learning about the ding, I was convinced this was "the one". It still may be, but my enthusiam and faith is a bit shaken as I have only just now heard about this damage. Maybe it's not as big a deal as I'm making it out to be.

A fellow Pelicanite has been kind enough to offer to check over the car for me tomorrow, so I guess I'll have a better feel after that.

dude, you need meds. Trust me, I know.

does not look like too big of a deal to me. how many miles? how much money? any other pics?

60K miles. I don't have anywhere to host more pics (a friend is hosting this one for me). Right now our negotiated price is appropriate for an excellent car of this age, mileage, and condition, though this ding may change that a bit.

He's going to let his wife know about the Porsche thing when he brings it home. What could possibly go wrong?
;)

Ah, yes, it would appear that you are getting to know me all too well. ;)

Yes, meds would probably be good.

Can you say anal? Good, I knew ya' could. ;)

What? Is that a bad idea you think?

My wild ass guess is that it wouldn't cost more than $500 to get fixed - probably less. I wouldn't let that stand between you and a nice car.

Dammit! I just managed to spill Pepsi all over myself. I 'R Smooooove.

OK, now where are my meds again? Hey, you guys are like my support group! :D

so how much does the car cost?

He's going to let his wife know about the Porsche thing when he brings it home. What could possibly go wrong?

HA HA HA LOL Ask me how I know what could go wrong!!!

7 Porsches later and her and I both need Meds!!

Jeff

what colour is that car? - I'm not sure that is a desireable colour - looks copperish to me.

Cars like this one seem to go for anywhere from $23K to $27K. The ding may factor into that somewhat though.

Cognac Brown Metallic. Some hate it, others like it. Best described as kind of a bronzey, coppery, rootbeery, metallic brown.

It's not red, white, black, or silver. Then again it's not red, white black, or silver.

most people hate it. (that copperish bronzey rootberry metallic brown thing!) - is the price adjusted accordingly? how much?

mmm, you can upload pics directly to this site. No need to "host" them.

Just look for "upload picture" in the reply screen.
For what it's worth, I like the color.
good luck,

Ahhh, DUH!!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1096779893.jpg

It looks to be very similar in color to my old '79.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1096780063.jpg


I like it.

Is there anyway to access pics again later once uploaded, or to manage one's uploaded pics? Or do you just upload them each and every time you choose to use them?

Actually a lot of people like it. I'd say about 50/50. Is the price adjusted accordingly? Who can say?

How much "less" is it worth based on the color? Or is it worth "less" at all? Again, who can say?

so how much?

I am not comfortable divulging that information at this time. Don't mean to be cagey or distrusting, but I don't want to give out too much info at this point. Never know who else may have looked at it or may be looking at it, you know?

Why don't you tell me how much you think it's worth.

I do not think it is 50/50 w/r to the desireability of the coppery bronzey rootberry metallic brown colour - however - the important part is that you like that (ugly) colour. if the rest checks out I say $21000 usd.

I didn't think so either, but I've asked around and it seems more people than one might think like the color. It wouldn't have been my first choice, but it's kinda grown on me, like fungus....

What is your basis for saying $21K. Under what circumstances would you say more, or less. Car has 60K, and has been well cared for and well maintained.

Pretty hard to put a value on the car without more info. I would figure on, at the very least, a $500 deduction for the ding. If the car is really nice I think you'd spend more than that to ensure it remains really nice.

Is it just me or are the Carrera G50 prices rising all of a sudden?

In my opinion it would be worth more if it was not "fungus" coloured - these cars are some of the best of the lot (ROW cars non-withstanding). However be forewarned - the coppery bronzey rootberry metallic brown cars are harder to unload - should you change your preference regarding that (ugly) colour.

creaturecat, must be a Brit.

:)

BRITish Columbia Canada to be exact - I still do not like the coppery bronzey rootberry metallic brown thing - too earthy!

MMM did not ask us for opinions on the color of his Porsche. He did ask for opinions on the ding. MMM likes the color or he wouldn't be considering buying the car. So why the need to roast his choice of a car color??

Well, my god man; duley noted. Ok, I'm going to put it in my little memorandum pad that creaturecat does not like copper metallic paint. It's starting to remind me of the alleged child molester I had in the interview room last week. "It's those frikin' Jahova Witnesses, man, they've screwed with her mind, man." Over and over and over and over ... for 6 hours!

If he likes the paint, let him like the paint.
cheers,
:)

I like to think of it as buyer beware - he has not actually bought the (ugly coloured) car yet.- let me guess - you own a coppery bronzey rootberry metallic brown car as well !!

Back to the original question.

You like the color, the car looks nice enough in the picture, you are close to your price.

Why obsess over some minor bodywork. These cars are 20 years old on average. You will not find a perfect one and even if you do unless you lock it in a garage and never drive it it'll get dings and paint chips.

Get the guy to knock a couple of bucks off, buy the car, have it fixed and drive the car, and definately get some meds.

mmm - I guess this car is original, eh? My guess on a 1989 G-50 Carrera - 60K miles, all records, 60K service completed on schedule, good leakdown, valve guides and seals checked out, good tires, rubber seals in good shape, no interior wear, no foggy guages, working clock, good hood shocks, bright lights, etc. In the NE this is probably a $24-$27k car. In the Midwest probably a $23-$25K car. In California probably a $22-$24K car.

And yes, seems the G-50 Carreras have at least stabilized in price, if not edged up a little. Thanks Bruce Anderson and Excellence! At least the color is original - you are not likely to be sitting across the traffic light at another one!

Yes, the car is all original. Former PCA Concours car.

hi there


its a VERY nice car i would say GET it you cant get a PERFECT car (even NEW)...

i love the color...;) btw i would buy it JUST for the color:D

Are you looking for a concours car? Then skip it.

Otherwise, from your description, the only flaw (other than the 60,000 miles) is the dent. If you don't want to allocate $500 to have it repaired or compensate in the purchase price, keep looking for the perfect car. Hint. You will either pay dearly for one of those or look for long time.

Sherwood