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I don't think that there's any way that Porsche would stock/supply a non-forged 'Fuchs' alloy wheel.
As George (& others) have stated - all of the wheels that we generally refer to as 'Fuchs' - whatever the size or year produced - are forged. PET has always had numerous mistakes/confusion in the parts descriptions - this is an example from PET 6 similar to that posted by K-Jetronic. It refers to the wheel options for the '86 911 3.2 Carrera: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1098025066.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1098025088.jpg |
Andys post show one of the obvious inconsistancies that are in PET.
Trust us on this there are and never have been any cast Fuchs used as oems. There are cast aftermarket replicas. |
Anybody have the offset chart for P-cars around and can post it? Can't find the stoopid thang....
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Try here
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Thanks Uncle Bill...%^B
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Cast & Forged
There was never a cast Fuch's as we know them from Porsche. There are of course the aftermarket fakes that are cast. The Fuchs in question is no longer available so Porsche superseded it with the cast (probably ATE Cookie cutter or Phonedial) which is still available as a replacement. MGH
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As long as we are looking for stuff on Fuchs, I have a very vague memory of a web site that showed how fuchs were made. Showing first the billet and then the forging steps to completion. Interesting how the tiny billet became a wheel. Anyone know the url?
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Jack Olsen posted the article here a while ago. It was in Excellence.
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BTW, Mr Weatherman says that the freezing level at Mt. Hood is down to 4,000 feet and they expect a dusting of 4 to 6 inches tonight. As if that is not enough, just to get me going, my skiing buddy came up to me yesterday and asked when we were going to go. I'll know it's truly the season when Warren Miller does his intro to his Ski Movie here. Cheers. |
http://www.otto-fuchs.com/english/index.html
...we could write Mr. Otto Fuchs a nice letter and ask him if we could borrow his press for a few days... :D |
Just to confirm, I think mine are fake right?http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1098349040.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1098349060.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1098349074.jpg
These are all the idents I could find, the PO restored the wheels. Just let me know your thoughts. Gerko 1978sc |
These are fake indeed.
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Just as I feared, thanks for your quick reply.
Gerko |
Not that it's a bad thing, mind you. They are certainly fine for "normal" driving. I don't think I'd take them to the track though. That 1080 Lbs max load would make me nervous on high speed-2 wheels in the air turns.
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Harry - folks are backcountry skiing up there right now - pic in the Orebonian.
I wonder if that forge still exists..... It's captialism, so if a sufficient market exists it WILL be filled. We just need to get over the barrier to entry here.... Who knows how much it costs to make the dies? And is there sucha thing as Rent-A-Forge -- BYO-Dies?? If it was possible it would solve the lack of R wheels for sure. |
So I decided to buy some real Fuchs to replace my replica's. Indeed there are a lot of numbers on my new wheels can someone (maybe Bill?) explain what they mean and perhaps give me some more info on them? The wheels are 7j15 and 8j15.
wheel number one: 24 8j15 91136102012 as1062 0883 wheel number two: the same as number one but with an extra +38 wheel number three: a1 fco 1688 070 355 7j X 15 ET 23.3 911361020 as1062 wheel number four: as number three, with extra 91136102011 as1 62 28139.2 975 19 Any info would be appreciated, Kind regards Gerko 1978sc PS, this time I made sure they all were marked by the Fuchs (fox) symbol but they were also all marked with a triangle? The 8j's are white on the back/inside. |
Yes, they are genuine Fuchs the 8s have a +10.6mm o/s (ET10.6 is embossed somewhere on the back), the 7s have a +23.3mm o/s
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Thanks Bill,
By looking at the numbers can you tell me anything more, like maybe the manufacturing date or something? Regards, Gerko 1978sc |
Wheel one is probably 0883: 8th week of 1983
Wheel 2 is the same (so you write) Wheel 3 nomention from the data available Wheel 4 is 9th week of 1975 Actually, if they are not cracked, the date has little influence. The only interesting point would be if they took a 3 prong center cap, in which case, PM me immediately :D |
Hi George,
The wheels were not fitted with center caps when I bought them, all four of them seem to have the same diameter center. How do I identify if they took a 3 prong center cap? The 8j's were white on the inside is this normal? Gerko 1978sc |
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