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Question Rear calipers: metal slugs in pistons?

I pulled the pads out of a set of early Brembo 2-pots and out fell the two metal cylinders you see here. What are they there for?


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Jon,

Assume that the pistons are still in the calipers? Thats very interesting...

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Yes--the piston are the same outward-facing cup shape as on most calipers. The slugs were loose inside the cups. I was guessing maybe they were there for some sort of damping effect to prevent squeeling?
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PET confirms--"vibration damper"

So the next question is: what makes these calipers so susceptible to vibration that they need such a kludgy solution? I have nearly identical (but 14 years newer) calipers on the back of my Subaru. I'll have to check and see if they have the slugs.
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It's not really a damper but more of an adaptor so that the small spyders(the real dampers) can snap into the pistons w/o a redesign. These were an after thought on that caliper.

This is a set of 4 dampers for 1 4 piston caliper, the flat face is bonded to the back of the pad, the spyder snaps into the piston.
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It's not really a damper but more of an adaptor
Brilliant engineering there--let's add half a pound of unsprung weight rather than just make a 44mm spider.

Anyway--good to know. Thanks.
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You would be frightened to know about the amount of added vehicle mass happening in auto engineering - esp as it relates to dampers.

99% of dampers are after-thoughts or band-aid fixes.
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I think it was cost benefit thing, they knew that those calipers were only a short term solution so didn't waste anything on doing them right.

By the way the spiders aren't really necessary, I use them if they are free, but only on a street car. Never on a track car.

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