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Alan.UK 11-11-2004 07:13 AM

Deep 6s and flat 6 fuchs - difference (pic)
 
Hi all,

I just quickly put this image together for a friend and thought I would also post it here, just incase it helps.

Thanks

Alan.UK

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1100189598.jpg

speeder 11-11-2004 07:30 AM

Thank you for that, good post! :cool:

RarlyL8 11-11-2004 08:58 AM

Thanks for the post.
I had a set of "deep" wheels on my '73T. Never knew what the difference was.

Early_S_Man 11-11-2004 09:19 AM

Alan,

Rear, inside closeup pics would be helpful, too, as I suspect very few people are aware of the reinforcement ribs on the early, tube-type wheels ... that radiate out from the root of the spokes outwards towards the inner (back) side.

trj911 11-11-2004 09:22 AM

Very interesting. I've been curious about the difference and now I know.

Alan.UK 11-11-2004 09:59 AM

Hi all,

No problem Warren. Here is a pic of a pair of deep 6s plus a picture of the inside of the rims. The fully polished deep 6, clearly shows why these rims get their name. Also the last picture shows the raised lip around the valve hole, flat 6s do not have this feature.

Thanks

Alan.UK
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1100199457.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1100199488.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1100199508.jpg

Randy Webb 11-11-2004 10:12 AM

Great info.

One query tho - do all flat sixes have a safety bead, or just the later ones? See the 1st pic for the ambiguity.

gregk1 11-11-2004 10:21 AM

I have some deep 6's with no safty bead is it a must to run tubes with these?? I just run around on the street, no track or autocross just normal every day driving

Alan.UK 11-11-2004 10:37 AM

Hi Randy,

Sorry for the confusion, all flat style 6s have a safty bead. Its the earlier (1969-some time within 1971) deep 6s which do not have this beading.

The flat 6 in the first picture does have the beading, but it is not very clear.

Scott Clarke 11-11-2004 11:41 AM

Greg-
The safety beads have no relationship to the use of tubes. The safety beads prevent the tire from leaving the bead in the event of a rapid deflation. this could occur with or without tubes. Deep 6s are fine without tubes.
-Scott

dvkk 11-11-2004 01:37 PM

Scott is right about the safety bead humps and tubless tires. VW went to tubless tires in 1957, but didn't incorporate safety bead humps until 10 years later. Porsche was obviously a little slow, and just happened to upgrade both at the same time.

Shaun @ Tru6 11-11-2004 01:46 PM

great post.

Question: how does a deep 6 differ from a 911R wheel?

Alan.UK 11-11-2004 02:47 PM

I have more comparison pics between a deep 6 and 7R rim that I can post tomorrow when I am back in the office...

Alan.UK

Anders-M.I.B 11-14-2004 08:28 AM

Deep or flat fuchs
 
Hi

Here is an other good picture!

http://home.no.net/jhu/Felger%20page/Newold%20fuchs.jpg

Hi Alan-UK

How are you ;) ???

Anders

RarlyL8 11-14-2004 08:34 AM

That picture tells the tale.
Which type wheel is more valuable in terms of resale?

dvkk 11-14-2004 09:51 AM

Shaun,
The difference is only in the inner lip. From the mounting face out they are identical. All they did was stretch the inner rim.
I'll try to post a pic:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/84078.jpg

On the left is an early deep 6 sitting on 1" wood block.

Early deep 6s are worth more than late 6s in comparable condition.

Shaun @ Tru6 11-14-2004 10:03 AM

Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know. Someday...

randywebb 11-14-2004 10:17 AM

It seems the deep Fuchs are more valuable even tho they are _less_ safe, and harder to clean....

Alan.UK 11-15-2004 10:42 AM

Here is a couple of pics of the 7R rim compared to its thinner 15 inch brothers....

4.5 then 5.5 then deep 6, then flat 6 and finally 7R

Alan.UK

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1100547668.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1100547683.jpg

PS. Anders, I am well, how are you???SmileWavy

Anders-M.I.B 11-15-2004 12:05 PM

Hi

Remember if you want to mix the front and rear size.....

Then use the early fuchs....the late(flat 6) don't match up with the early fuchs style.

The Fuchs "Star" are not the same size "early deep vs. late flat"

I will run my early 4.5's front and 5.5's or early 6's back when I find some for the back ......sold my late/flat 6's because the don't match up with my 4.5's

Alan.....Just married 2 month ago ;) so all good


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