3.0 Carrear Vs 911 SC

[Walko]

OK who know what the exact differences are between a 1976 or 1977 3.0 Carrera and a 1978 to 1982 911sc.

I am aware that the Hp is different but are there any other differences.

Thanks in advance.

Michael

[SpeedracerIndy]

I'll take a stab at it... I believe the 76-77 Carrera 3.0 motor used the 2.7 case and crank, and the SC's used the 930 turbo case. I'm sure there are many other small differences too.

[Walko]

IU have heard that sida but I thought the 3.0 Carrera motor was an alloy case and teh 2.7 was mag.

Michael

[Walko]

Noah,

I did a search and was able to find teh differences in the motors. What I was searching for i sthe differences in the body and any other areas.

Michael

[trak ratt]

SCs had fully galvanized bodies, vs lower only. Dashboard air-conditioning vents and I believe the center air control counsel.

[addictionMS]

Carrera 3.0 sounds cooler

[Walko]

Thanks guys

[Fast Eddy]

There is a 75 Carrera 3.0 for sale $9975 on Craigslist if anybody is interested http://losangeles.craigslist.org/car/60754322.html

[Bill Verburg]

76-77 Carrera 3.0 motor used the 2.7 case

nonsense, the case was thesame(suitably modified for the 2.7 crank) as the 930 and later SC

SCs had fully galvanized bodies, vs lower only

more nonsense, early '76 were fully galanized except for the roof section, fully double Thyssen steel by the middle of the run and all '77 models.

Model	         Engine     curb wt. Top Speed	0-100 	    hp	  torque

		          (kg)     (km/hr)    (km/hr)		

76-77C3/ROW	930/02	1120	>230	6.5	200@6000	188@4200

78-79SC/ROW	930/03	1160	225	7.0	180@5500	175@4200

78-79SC/US	           930/04	1160	225	7.0	180@5500	175@4200

80SC/US	          930/07	1250	225	7.0	180@5500	175@4200

80SC/ROW	           930/09	1160	235	6.8	188@5500	175@4200

81-83SC/US	           930/16	1250	225	7.0	180@5500	175@4200

81-83SC/ROW	930/10	1160	235	6.8	204@5900	189@4200

[TerryH]

Is the 188hp correct for the '81 RoW? All the books and charts, including Bruce Andersons, I've seen list it as 204hp @ 5900. The same as '82 and '83 cars. The fuel door on my '81 asks for 98 RON, so I'm sure the compression is up there... 9.8:1?

Originally posted by Bill Verburg

Model	curb wt.	Top Speed	0-100 	hp	torque

	 (kg)	 (km/hr)	(km/hr)		

76-77C3	1120	>230	6.5	200@6000	188@4200

78-80SC/ROW1160	225	7.0	180@5500	175@4200

78-79SC/US	1160	225	7.0	180@5500	189@4200

80-81US	1250	225	7.0	180@5500	175@4200

81SC/ROW	1160	235	6.8	188@5500	175@4200

82-83/ROW	1160	235	6.8	204@5800	189@4200

82-83/US	1250	225	7.0	180@5500	175@4200

[OZCarrera3]

...and don't forget the standard fitment of the very attractive 'snorkel' headlight washers!!!



Seriously, the body differences have been covered by Bill, the only thing I would add is that early C3's did not have brake booster as standard fitment. I'm not sure when they did exactly, but I am sure it was mid to late '77 (Bill/Noah?).

[dd74]

Carrera 3s weren't brought into the U.S. Therefore all of them were potentially subject to the same gray-market butchering as all imported Euro 911s from '74 on. Be careful when inspecting one.

[Bill Verburg]

Is the 188hp correct for the '81 RoW? All the books and charts, including Bruce Andersons, I've seen list it as 204hp @ 5900. The same as '82 and '83 cars.

Noted and edited, there are actually several different #s for some of these cars depending on the source, even the factory #s can be misleading.

'76 no boost, '77 boost
'76 targa no power windows but last of the moveable vent windows.

ROW generally had deformable bumper tubes, US had hyd. shock
ROW had small bumper pillows US had king size

Carrera 3s weren't brought into the U.S. Therefore all of them were potentially subject to the same gray-market butchering as all imported Euro 911s from '74 on. Be careful when inspecting one.

another myth, most if not all of them were brought in w/ an EPA exemtion, the DOT mods were run of the mill unbolt/bolt sort of things, many of the euro cars were run hard and put away wet, they don't pamper them like we do, but most of them have expired and/or been resurected by now

[jwmc1]

Carrera 3.0 engines are cooler!

[Aussie]

They had different fuel distributors.

As I purchased a Carerra 3.0 for my SC a while back, haven't put it on the car yet.

[Walko]

Noah

thanks for your input.

Michael

[dd74]

Originally posted by Bill Verburg
another myth, most if not all of them were brought in w/ an EPA exemtion, the DOT mods were run of the mill unbolt/bolt sort of things, many of the euro cars were run hard and put away wet, they don't pamper them like we do, but most of them have expired and/or been resurected by now

Let me clarify, Bill: to my recollection, as I was fairly young in those days, the Carrera 3.0 was not sold in U.S. dealership, correct? That's essentially what I meant. Yes, they could be brought into The States, but one couldn't go down to their local Porsche store and purchase one as they could a standard 911.

[SpeedracerIndy]

Originally posted by Bill Verburg
nonsense, the case was thesame(suitably modified for the 2.7 crank) as the 930 and later SC

Well I guess I'm full of nonsense, so don't listen to me.

What does "suitably modified for hte 2.7 crank" mean? So it does use the 2.7 crank, I guess I'm only 50% nonsense.

[Bob's Flat-Six]

Was the Carrera 3.0 available with 16" fuchs ?

[Bill Verburg]

Was the Carrera 3.0 available with 16" fuchs ?

not in '76, yes in '77 when the 6&7 x16 became an option