Sellers on drugs...

[Vipergrün]

I guess the value of SC's have gone up in the past 3 years.....unless the paint on this "Weissach" edition (1983 WTH??)
is gold plated....

http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/2/7/76761727.htm

[kaisen]

Well, the wheels are chrome plated, and it does have a V6....

[Jack Olsen]

Anyone can afford to be wildly optimistic on value -- so long as they actually don't need to make a sale.

[efhughes3]

....and power steering

[real550A]

Isn't the Weissach a 1980 only edition with color matched wheels?
The only way he'll get the asking price is by disclosing the fact that it is E Ram equipped.

[Wayne 962]

A couple of things:

- It only takes one buyer
- As the cars get older, condition is becoming the most important factor.

I've seen:
- 911SCs sell for $4K.
- early 911Ts sell for $40K.
- 930s sell for $12K
- Carrera RSs sell for $150 (when they fetched about $45K five years ago)

A smart buyer looks at the condition of the car first, and then considers price. You can easily spend more than $25,000 in parts restoring any 911 back to a condition close to show-and-shine.

My point is that there are probably a few cars out there worth this price tag. Not sure if this is one of them...

-Wayne

[anthony]

$25K isn't out of the ballpark if the car is a true 69K miles concours condition car.

[Gumba11]

"911 SC, V-6 engine" What???????????????????????(LOL)

[PorscheGuy79]

Didnt the Wessies come with a turbo tail?

[speeder]

I've found that web site to be filled w/ crack smoking, glue sniffing sellers. It's like none of them actually want to sell anything, they just want to show off their "priceless antique" used *****boxes.

I have doubts as to whether a shrink-wrapped, brand-new 1980 Weissach edition would fetch more than $25k. It is a model that was a cosmetic powder-puff job to start with, they are only really special to people who already own one. A total PR job by Porsche at the time, kind of like all of those "collector's edition" 25/30/35/etc... year Corvettes and Harleys.

I agree that condition is important, but most cars are much cheaper to buy in mint condition that to restore, you would have to be an imbecile to restore an SC.

[trader220]

Its just an offer, I got some CSCO and some GE offered higher too, if you care?

[Bill Oxley]

I tend to agree more with Wayne. The V-6 is probably just a misquote, or wrong verbiage, of the "horizontal" type engine.

When I bought my 84 TL, I thought it was overpriced.

In reality, after post purchase analysis, considering the excellent condition it is in, and it’s rarity, I now think I got one heck of a deal.

In my opinion, you can get a "great price" and/or you can get a great car. In absence of one of those conditions, I'd rather get a great car!

[Por_sha911]

V-6 may be a misquote but POWER STEERING? Maybe that's why the car is so valuable: its a one-of-a-kind!

[Jack Olsen]

Point of trivia: a Porsche 911 does not have a true boxer engine. The firing order of the cylinders would be different if that were the case. All 911s (including that SC) have a V-6, with a 180-degree V.

Even Porsche only refers to it as a "boxer layout."

[Wil Ferch]

Jack:
I dunno....

Point-in-fact....the 917 12 cylinder car is indeed a 180 degree V-12...not a true "flat- 12", because two pistons share a common crankthrow.

In contrast, I believe the 911 engine is a true boxer because each piston has its own crankthrow...120 degrees apart from its neighbor.

Can someone here confirm?

- Wil

[Az911]

This car has been for sale since last November...

[pwd72s]

Originally posted by speeder
I've found that web site to be filled w/ crack smoking, glue sniffing sellers. It's like none of them actually want to sell anything, they just want to show off their "priceless antique" used *****boxes.

I have doubts as to whether a shrink-wrapped, brand-new 1980 Weissach edition would fetch more than $25k. It is a model that was a cosmetic powder-puff job to start with, they are only really special to people who already own one. A total PR job by Porsche at the time, kind of like all of those "collector's edition" 25/30/35/etc... year Corvettes and Harleys.

I agree that condition is important, but most cars are much cheaper to buy in mint condition that to restore, you would have to be an imbecile to restore an SC.

Hoot! Denis, I agree. You are probably too young to remember the "California Special" Mustang. Translation: Power and performance down because of local smog laws, but we added cute decals and a spoiler on the trunk, so you can at least look fast.

[Jack Olsen]

Wil, I've been told that in an actual boxer engine, the opposing cylinders are "on the same cycle and (in theory) cancel out each other's lateral force." A Porsche's firing order goes from 1, to 6, etc.

But I've been told a lot of things that aren't true. I've also seen a boxer engine defined as having a separate crank for every piston.

Arguing about a definition only makes sense if everyone agrees on a particular definition, which probably isn't the case with the term boxer.

[jluetjen]

911's are Boxers. 917's were 180 degree V12's. The easiest way to tell is that two opposing pistons "Box" each other by moving in opposition to each other, which is what cancels out the 2nd order vibrations of the pair. The next pair of cylinders have the plane of their throws 120 degrees from the first pair, so no -- each throw is not 120 degrees from it's neighbor. A "180 degree V6" would have only 3 throws on its crankshaft, with 2 rods per throw.

911's have 6 throws on their cranks with 1 rod per throw.

[kaisen]

Should be described as 'H-6' then, or 'horizontal six',
or best yet 'flat-six'

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