odd car quiz

[masraum]

You don't win anything, but who can tell me about this car that is a first cousin twice removed. (or something like that)











It's been too long since we played this game, and I'm bored.

[oldE]

Tatra, circa 1950??
Les

[masraum]

Nice guess, but no, the age is about right.

[dafischer]

I'd say it's a Denzel.

[masraum]

Then you'd probably be right.

[masraum]

From http://vea.qc.ca/vea/marques1/denzel.htm

DENZEL (Austria) 1948-1960


Ex-motorcycle racer Wolfgang Denzel at Vienna started out using primarily VW mechanical components for his cars. However, as production increased, by the mid-1950s he was using many fewer VW parts. For example, most major mechanical components of his engines (except for the two-piece VW crankcases) were made by or for Denzel, including cylinder heads, intake manifolds, pushrods, rocker arms, pistons and cylinders, connecting rods, and even crankshafts. Brakes were from Fiat. Wheels were not VW or Porsche; by the mid-1950s many of them used Borroni steel/alloy wheels.

As far as engines are concerned, Denzel built 1100 cc, 1300 cc (two versions at the same time with one having more horsepower), and 1500 cc (two versions with more horsepower). In addition to the engines in his cars, he also offered a complete kit to convert a VW engine to a highly modified unit with Denzel mechanical components including crankshaft, rods, pistons, cylinders, etc

Although the earliest Denzel car or cars were built on a VW chassis, Denzel early-on went to his own chassis design. As mentioned above, brakes and wheels were not VW or Porsche. Engine major mechanical parts were primarily Denzel parts.

[masraum]

Here's some other info that I found on the net

Manufacturer: Denzel Class: F
Model: 1300 Super
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DESCRIPTION:
2-Seater Aluminum Roadster
Dry Weight: 1320 lbs
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ENGINE: Type .............. 4 cyl opposed, air-cooled, ohv
Bore & stroke ..... 3.07" x 2.63" (78mm x 67mm)
Capacity .......... 1289 cc (78.1 cu in)
Comp ratio ........ 8.5:1
Head material ..... Aluminum
Port size ......... Intake 1.25"; Exhaust 1.10"
Piston material ... Aluminum
Piston weight ..... 13 oz
Timing data:
Intake .... Open 15° BTDC, Close 55° ABDC
Exhaust ... Open 55° BBDC, Close 15° ATDC
Valve lift: ....... 9.32mm
Valve head dia:
Intake .... 1.41"
Exhaust ... 1.25"
Valve spring ......
Carburation ....... Two Solex 40 PH-4
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TRANSMISSION AND DRIVE TRAIN:
Ratios:
1 3.6 2.83
2 1.88 1.81
3 1.23 1.25
4 0.815 0.875
5
Final drive ratios: 4.375=35/8
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CHASSIS
Wheelbase ................... 82"
Track dimension, front ...... 52"
Track dimension, rear ....... 52"
Shock absorber ..............
Steering ratio .............. 14.15
Brakes ......................
Tire size ................... 5.60 X 15

[dafischer]

Nice and light at 1320 lbs. Any idea of HP?

[austin552]

How about this one?

[masraum]

Isn't that the Le Mans 356 that was streamlined to improve it's aero for the long straights.

[Wil Ferch]

VW Type 60K/10...pre War streamliner designed for the Berlin-Rome run....

3 built....one was ruined by GI's as they over-ran Gmund. The pictured car was once owned by the one-armed Austrian driver...Otto Mathe.

Pre-curser to the post war 356......Erwin Komenda body design.

...I guess.... !

Wil

[austin552]

Guess that one was too easy...
Another?

[masraum]

RSK

or more completely, Type 718 RSK/RS60

[masraum]

Another weird one.

[Jgordon]

Dauphin porsche?

[Wil Ferch]

Elva Porsche.....

he he....

Wil

[austin552]

[Wil Ferch]

Looks like the Dusio-inspired Cisitalia GP car of 1948.... Supercharged 1.5 Liter V-12 and all-wheel drive...

..I would guess....

Wil

[jluetjen]

Ok Wil;
Here's one that will slow you down for half a beat.

[Wil Ferch]

Ahhhh.....ummmm.....

wait a minute......

ahhh....hmmm.....

Guogliout (sp?) design....right?

- Wil

Edit: the wheels....where I have I *seen* these wheels ???