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speeder · speeder's Garage

This car is so far "beyond excellent" that it is really hard to say, it is one of the best restorations I've ever seen. It is almost "over-restored", but not. Just perfect.

It had to have been a clean car before the resto, and it must have cost a bloody fortune.

speeder · speeder's Garage

This is what I mean:

LeeH · 04-05-2005, 07:45 AM

Hey... that rear glass has a smudge on it. I wouldn't have it as a gift.

fryardds · fryardds's Garage

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Originally posted by speeder
This car is so far "beyond excellent" that it is really hard to say, it is one of the best restorations I've ever seen. It is almost "over-restored", but not. Just perfect.

It had to have been a clean car before the resto, and it must have cost a bloody fortune.

Denis,

I was thinking the same thing. Sure is shiney, especially the spray in the front trunk. Too bad the owner didn't put this kind of effort into an 'S' model. Except for the cost of the car it would have been the same $$$ spent.

I was thinking it would go from $26-27K also, FWIW.

Doog · 04-05-2005, 11:33 AM

Absolutely stunning.

Not sure what it would fetch in Doha, but in the UK it would fetch near $50K. Whats that? about £30K sterling.

Have a look at this site..

http://www.export56.com/carsforsale/saleitem.jsp?SaleID=5

not sure how many they sell though....

rgds

Doog

KevinS · 04-05-2005, 08:35 PM

I didn't see a price on the UK car. Beautiful also. But that purple color? Sorry I know some of you like it, but just doesn't do it for me. There is another fantastic restoration job of an early T down in Australia that is about the same color purple and as well done, but again I just couldn't bring myself to pay that money for a purple car. If in fact it does go for $27,000 I think I’ll just restore mine. Give me a white Targa any day. Slow as you know what, mushy, Mark Donahue beating 911E on the track any day. :-)

ScottKelly911 · ScottKelly911's Garage

that is truly a beautiful car, the only shame is that it's not an S. Nothing against T's, my car is a T, but a car in that condition if it were an S would be just amazing. I also echo what others have said, I doubt that it'll meet the reserve, but I sure would like to know what it goes for if it does.

Doog · 04-06-2005, 01:12 AM

thx px for the UK car is £38k Sterling.

at todays rate of 1.88 that equates to over $ 71k u.s

silverc4s · silverc4s's Garage

Sorry, the US car is mich nicer, IMO, than the Aubergine fakey-doo for sale in the UK for way to much money. Nothing authentic about that car at all...;-(

It does make the earlier point regarding "asking prices" rather well; caveat emptor, etc.

LeeH · 04-08-2005, 07:27 PM

It's at $27,300 with a little under three hours remaining. Reserve not met.

speeder · speeder's Garage

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Originally posted by Doog
thx px for the UK car is £38k Sterling.

at todays rate of 1.88 that equates to over $ 71k u.s

A color-changed, modified 911T for $71k? Where do I sign??

Not two years ago I was hunting for a '73 RS for a friend and turning down genuine RS touring cars in similar condition for considerably less money. In Europe, no less. Anyone who buys one of these 911Ts in this market must truly have ***** for brains. Anyone selling one right now, OTOH, is brilliant. Time to get rid of this collection, baby!!

fryardds · fryardds's Garage

Well auction ended at $29,975 and reserve not met! That is ridiculous for a restored (very nicely I might add) '69T, but somebody will probably buy it for over $30K.

LeeH · 04-09-2005, 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by fryardds
Well auction ended at $29,975 and reserve not met! That is ridiculous for a restored (very nicely I might add) '69T, but somebody will probably buy it for over $30K.

But is it really rediculous? Get out a calculator and start adding up the cost of taking the typical early car to this point. By the time you pay for the car, engine rebuild, paint, and little details you'll have $30K in it in a heartbeat. In this case someone else has already done the work. I'm not saying it's a bargain, but ask other people how much they have in their fully restored cars. Unless they do all their own work I bet it's this much or more.

randywebb · 04-09-2005, 10:07 AM

I think this is the first eBay car that Pelicans have posted about and not ripped apart... that should be worth another $1,000 in historic value...

Shuie · 10:25 AM

$30k was the initial number that popped into my head when I looked at the pics the first time. +/- depending on 2nd in person look or a PPI. '$30k for a T' sounds insane, but what do I know? Its not an S, but they arent exactly building the T's or E's anymore either. I know I couldnt build that car or make my car that nice for $30k. I bet its worth $30k USD to someone somewhere overseas right now.

fryardds · fryardds's Garage

Lee,

I'm fully aware of the costs to restore these cars. I am going through a mechanical (engine and suspension) restoration/rebuild on the RS right now.

My comment was once again directed to the starting point of a '69T. All this $$$ and time is spent and then it goes through an auction for over the top of the market price and doesn't meet reserve. It is kind of like watching Barrett/Jackson and seeing the large amounts of $$$ being spent on '60's and 70's American iron, especially the low end cars like a 2.0L 'T'. There is crazyness in many segments of the car market but it seems to be the way the market is headed if I approve or not.

LeeH · 10:32 AM

Personally, I love it. My '72 isn't quite as accurate a restoration as this one, but for a few thousand dollars I could get it pretty close. It makes me feel like my money is pretty safe. This one's mine:

silverc4s · silverc4s's Garage

Another way to look at it - just got back from a PCA Hill Country drive; lots of people paying $50K plus for a new Boxter, which will be worth $33K pretty soon too... Rather pay a bit too much for a car that is only going to be worth more in 5 years, than that...;-)

lateapex911 · 04-09-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by silverc4s
Another way to look at it - just got back from a PCA Hill Country drive; lots of people paying $50K plus for a new Boxter, which will be worth $33K pretty soon too... Rather pay a bit too much for a car that is only going to be worth more in 5 years, than that...;-)

Yeaaaa but......

First it's a bit of apples to oranges comparing it to a new Boxster. Frankly, the Boxster is a much better car, benefitting from years of engineering, refinement and layout differences..... hard to argue with that, and a convert. as well.

Good point about appreciation versus depreciation, but thats a basic truth over the whole market.

Think about this in your terms....in 30 years, will a common garden variety Boxster, nicely restored, sell for $500,000???

Because, in this case, that's what has happening. In 73, this car was the most common, and least desired 911, and sold for what...about $3,500? And now the market has offered almost $30,000, and it doesn't sell.

So....if a common car (serial number wise) is a no sell at $30K, what does that mean for less common Es and S's?

KevinS · 10:45 AM

I was asking myself that same question. My friend is going down today to pick up her SLK AMG, $65,000.00 before taxes registration, etc. Will that car be worth 2-3 times that in 30 years? I think your a little low on your prices for a 911T back in 73 though. My 71 went for over $6,000.00 new, I imagine that the 73 must have went for around $8,000.00. Looks like this guy is looking for more than 4 times that! But then again, look at 356 prices................the older 911's are heading that way. Can you imagine trying to restore the electronics on a new car 30 years from now.