New here - Need help re 930s turbo
 

Hi I'm a newbie here and a total Porsche novice. I was referred to this site by a fellow Elisetalk (Lotus) member.

I have first refusal on a 1988 930 turbo factory slant nose cabriolet. It is the 25th anniversary model (89 model year) although I've no idea how that differs from the regular version. Based on the small amount of research I've done I see that there are both factory and aftermarket versions out there, with the factory versions being more desirable. The seller, who is a family friend, has assured me that this is definitely a factory slant nose. I have no reason to disbelieve him, however I'm not 100% sure that he is 100% sure (if you get what I mean).

Again, from research I noted several things that would confirm factory v's aftermarket and I checked these out on the car, but I'm still confused. This is what I know:
- The VIN has a subscript '5' after the '93'
- Oil coolers behind the rear air intakes ?
- All steel nose
- 7" & 9" wheels
- Log book/Service manual has '505' option listed but the option sticker is missing from under the hood, however the paint code sticker is there - Is this a tell-tale sign ?

I've looked for the central linkage for the headlamp pop-up, but I'm not really sure where this would be or what to look for. I definitely saw a link rod (appx 12") next to the LH headlight but I couldn't see anything on the RH headlight mainly because there was some sort of plastic cover in the way. Similarly I didn't see anything down the center of the interior hood but as I said above I'm not sure what I should be looking for. Can someone direct me to a photo of the factory headlight linkage set up ?

Other info that may help - color is v. dark blue, engine/transmission code is 93068-68J-93036 (I think I read that the transmission was changed on the factory model in 1989), locking differential, electric cabriolet top.

I would greatly appreciate any help you guys can give me.

thanks

Alan

Welcome to the board, I can't help answer your specific questions... but I am sure SOMEONE here will be able to chime in.

Post some pics of the car in question.

Hi Alan and welcome to the board. The serial number won't tell you if the car is factory or not. Sometimes you can call Porsche with the vin and they will tell you if its a factory car or not. Call 800-Porsche.

I have a 1987 factory slantnose and the headlight bar is near the very front of the trunk area and also linkages under the fiberglass housings to each headlight.

My Service book has the other part of my sticker that is under the hood and it says "505" also.

Please post some pictures.

Here is a link that can answer some other questions.
http://vista.pca.org/stl/911slant.htm

Hope this helps some.

Welcome to the board. If you post some pictures would help a lot; but regardless, the main thing is to enjoy the car and have fun!

Alan,

Check out www.930s.com. This will answer all of your questions.
If you post pictures or email me with the pictures I can help.

Sloane Russeck
1989 930 factory slantnose cab
1979 930

Re: New here - Need help re 930s turbo
 

Alan,

The oil cooler behind the right rear air duct is a good indication that it's a real S.

Here is a link that will show you the headlight linkage:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/181758-930s-rear-air-duct-options-slant-nose.html

Wow - You guys are as good as your reputation. Thanks for the links and info. I will take some pictures this weekend and post them.

Again, thanks for your help

Okay finally got my photos. Let me know what you think. I feel almost certain now that this is definitely a factory 930S
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1114407849.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1114407876.jpg

Oil cooler behind the right air intake. The slats are wooden
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1114408002.jpg

Pop up headlight mechanism. There does appear to be a metal rod linkage running along the front interior face of the front trunk
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1114408079.jpg

Engine compartment

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1114408177.jpg

Fuch chromed & painted wheels

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1114408214.jpg

Was the dual (quad) exhaust stock?

Oh, very nice car!

Those look like the Borla's that are NLA.

Nice car leiko, welcome to the board:)

Leiko its looks to be real from the pictures. The car looks really nice. I haven't seen a factory slant nose in that color before. Did you find the other cover for the linkage in the trunk or is it missing? If you need to check on prices for this car your welcome to pm me and I will compare with some info that I have. Good luck.

Yep it's a Borla. No Cat. :D Stock exhaust also comes with it for smog checks.

This was my first experience driving a Porsche, and I have to admit it took some getting use to the pedal set up with them being off-set to the right. Also found the clutch pedal to take a lot more effort than I'm use to (probably since it's all mechanical). The car behaved impeccably both on the freeway and around the twisties. It certainly felt heavier than my Lotus Elise but it felt rock solid around the twisties, and man when that turbo kick in:) :)

It's a really nice car and basically all stock except for the stereo. I've just got to convince myself that it's what I really want. I have to admit that my main interest in it was due to the rarity of this model, but now I've driven it I think the fun-factor is tempting me even more.

Whats the offered price for sale on this baby?

leiko, does this have a 5 spd (G50/50) in it? It should for a true '89. That would make it ultra ultra rare. They are hydraulic-actuated systems, should be smooth and not too heavy. I've driven an elise and not much is as light and street legal except the old 7's. What color is yours, I've been seeing alot of them around my area on a daily basis. Gotta love So Cal:)

Wow - rare and double rare... Not many "s" not many cabs - really not many dark blue... Does it have the 4 speed or 5 speed - having the g-50 would make it the most desireable... Sweet...

Unfortunately the car has 4 spd transmission which also took some getting use to. So, what's the story with the G50 ? Was it an option or did it just supercede the 4 spd?

89turbocabmike - The Elise is lazer blue. Amazingly fun car if can put up with the ingress/egress & the compliment of small rattles and squeeks.

1989 was when the five speed came out

Hey, I may be in the minority, but I LIKE my 4-speed better than a 5-speed... and those rattles and squeeks are called "personality" on an older Porsche! :D

actually think he was talking about the elise.

BTW - my 1987 Porsche does not squeek.

I've owned both a 4 and 5 speed in a turbo and rather have a 4 speed also.

I have a '79 930 (four speed) and a 1989 factory slantnose cab(five speed). The four speed is and always will be (to me) awesome. The lag accentuates the boost. The five speed with the hydrolic clutch is much more user friendly and drivable in normal driving. With the five speed you are in a much more suitable torque range for a given situation.

Sloane Russeck
1979 930
1989 factory slantnose cab

Not to hijack the thread, but I'd have to agree.

I drove a friends '94 911 Turbo 3.6 with the 5-speed over the weekend. Very, very fast... but I didn't like all the shifting just as the boost started getting really fun.

Myself, I like getting in gear, watching the boost build... and then disappearing off the horizon...:D

The 3.6 Turbo was much better around town, but my 930 is my weekend car (where I like "tall gears and lag").

Hey Emission, I just noticed we are both in the same town i.e T.O.

Alan

Great, now we have to meet so I can see your car. A good friend of mine (in TO also) bought a '94 3.6 Turbo over the weekend... we can help each other out. SmileWavy

To answer your question, the G50 trans, which is hydraulicly actuated (no clutch cable), was the next generation to the 915 trans. Less heavyness in the pedal, and smoother shifting by most accounts. You really need to drive an 86 or earlier to feel the difference.

or in this case - being a turbo - a 1989 or later...

leiko,
It looks to be the authentic 930S Cab. Looks to be in beautiful shape. Really a nice color to boot! There's many ways to determine if a 930S is the real deal. The ones mentioned earlier in the thread are the easiest to spot. Another easy clue is at the jacking point area on the boxed rockers. Cheap conversions won't even have a jacking point. Porsche reinforced and extended the steel square tube out to the jacking point. Look under the boxed rockers, you'll see what I mean.
The only thing I have questions on is the transmission. I thought all 911 turbos in 1989 had the G50 five speed. Are you sure it's not an '88? Can you provide the first 12 digits of the VIN?

Has anyone mentioned the asking price?

First 12 digits of the VIN are WP0EB0935JS0....

Asking price is 40k

Build date is 1988 which I assume is year '89 model. I can also confirm that the square tube does extend out to the jacking point

Alan

These cars remain exceptionaly cheap in the US. You wouldn't get a smell of one of these cars in Europe for that price. Look here and you will see. http://www.gmundcars.com/
http://www.mobile.de

That is damn cheap for a car like that. I paid 35k for my 88 cab (not slant nose) 2 years ago. How many miles on your car? We need to get together for a drive. Love to see this beauty in person.

Jeff

Wow - I'd buy it for $40K!

You must remember that each one of Sonderwunsch cars almost cost double that of its production counterpart when it was delivered so why now should it be worth almost the same price as the normal car ?. As well as that nearly all the 930 S cars have extremely low milage .40 K Dollars is only £21K in our money and that only gets you a medium 930 over here.I believe at that price its a better investment than any savings policy !