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moazam 06-21-2005 09:42 PM

Crashed one, bought another!
 
Many of you saw my thread about my previous '86 911 Coupe being crashed and eventually sold. Well, it's been long enough, we've replaced the '86 with an '87! :)

The car is a 1 owner, lady driven, CA car. Original engine, no rebuild, 127k miles. Interior is damn near perfect. When I originally saw the car, I thought "Repaint!" because the color was extremely faded and the car was just dirty as hell. Tree sap, dust, and Lord knows what else, everywhere. It has a Momo steering wheel with some signature on it, I'm going to end up replacing that with a 930S ASAP. After that I'll look into lowering and some new wheels. I'm not sure if this is US spec or Euro spec height, maybe you folks can educate me. It looks like US spec to me.

Anyways, here is the car *BEFORE* wash/wax:

http://www.unixville.com/~moazam/myA...edfaded911.jpg

Now, *AFTER* wash/wax:

http://www.unixville.com/~moazam/myA...1/fullshot.jpg

Rear quarter panel:

http://www.unixville.com/~moazam/myA...11/rearqtr.jpg

Interior:

http://www.unixville.com/~moazam/myA...1/interior.jpg

Signature on steering wheel, what does that say?! Anyone wanna buy the steering wheel?

http://www.unixville.com/~moazam/myA.../signature.jpg


The car goes in to the shop tomorrow for oil change, valve adjustment and general checkup. Once everything checks out and any needed work is done, the car is on the way to Miami to my brother. He paid for it, I just picked it out. I've been trying to convince him to forget the whole Porsche thing and I'll buy the car from him, but he's not hearing any of it...ah well. Maybe he'll get tired of it in a year or so!

Bobboloo 06-21-2005 10:40 PM

I'll buy it. (streering wheel that is) Email me a price.

Car looks great. Good find. The signature is Jackie Stewart.

PhatRedHead 06-21-2005 10:41 PM

i'll take that momo if it fits a '70T

moazam 06-21-2005 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bobboloo
I'll buy it. (streering wheel that is) Email me a price.

Car looks great. Good find. The signature is Jackie Stewart.

I don't know what the value of the steering wheel is so I guess I need some people to educate me, or make me an offer, or just trade me for a 930S steering wheel. :) Either way, let me know.

cantdrv55 06-21-2005 10:48 PM

Nice car M. Hey have you subscribed to the SF Bay Area Pelican discussion board at Yahoo Groups yet? Love to see your new car in person.

moazam 06-21-2005 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cantdrv55
Nice car M. Hey have you subscribed to the SF Bay Area Pelican discussion board at Yahoo Groups yet? Love to see your new car in person.
I'll be on the list by tomorrow. Hopefully we can do a get-together ride within the next week or so, I'd love to show up with the 'new' car.

PhatRedHead 06-21-2005 10:56 PM

moazam, you have a PM

vash 06-22-2005 07:13 AM

mo, is this car for you? or is it going to florida? either way, SWEET! you are a waxing, washing animal.
DAMN, didnt you have a red ducktail?

}{arlequin 06-22-2005 07:20 AM

not to ruffle any feathers, but that is a really cool steering wheel. I'd keep it. (you can pick up a 930 wheel anytime, anywhere)

Rot 911 06-22-2005 07:21 AM

Nice car. You know you have Carrera sport seats in that car don't you?

moazam 06-22-2005 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by vash
mo, is this car for you? or is it going to florida? either way, SWEET! you are a waxing, washing animal.
DAMN, didnt you have a red ducktail?

Yes! I *had* a red ducktail! Now I wish I had never sold it! :P

moazam 06-22-2005 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kurt V
Nice car. You know you have Carrera sport seats in that car don't you?
Yuhp, I figured they were sport seats the minute I sat in them. Pretty different from my '86 seats.

The car is at the shop today. Looks like it'll need a new clutch ($$$!). Lord knows what will be said about the engine, although it feels very strong. The lowering will end up being 24.5/25 and the original Fuchs will stay. Bob@RMG convinced me not to replace the Fuchs unless I'm gonna go with wider/bigger Fuchs.

Rot 911 06-22-2005 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moazam
The lowering will end up being 24.5/25 and the original Fuchs will stay.
Needs to be the other way around front wheel arch 1/2" higher than back wheel arch. But your probably know that.

jkarolyi 06-22-2005 11:11 AM

Nice find...it's amazing what cleaner wax and a lot of buffing can do to neglected original Porsche paint.

I assume you got a really good deal on it? Feed our curiousity...we all love bargain finds. :)

moazam 06-22-2005 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jkarolyi
Nice find...it's amazing what cleaner wax and a lot of buffing can do to neglected original Porsche paint.

I assume you got a really good deal on it? Feed our curiousity...we all love bargain finds. :)

I actually got an awesome deal on the car. Unfortunately I just had RMG check it out and the car needs a top end rebuild. I think I might just sell it as I don't have the time or resources to do a top end rebuild myself. Oh well, such is life.

cbeers 06-22-2005 12:16 PM

M,

NICE! I LOVE those seats! They are a good find. Also, Bob @ RMG is the best! Couldn't be at a better shop.......

Hope to see you soon :)


-Chris

moazam 06-22-2005 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoCal911SC
Ahh, the infamous P(ost) Purchase Inspection!

How was it determined that it needs a top end?

Was it a good deal even given that it needs a top end?!?

One thing, it sure looks a lot better! I never understand why even a lazy owner won't invest $150 in a full detail when selling a car like that.

Yes, even with a top end rebuild, I got a good enough deal that it's still OK. I had my fears that it would need the rebuild from looking at the records and previous leakdown/compression numbers. I was kinda hoping the numbers were lying! :)

So, anyone wanna buy an '87 that needs a top-end rebuild? Otherwise one of the guys at RMG will buy it from me in a day or so.

Deschodt 06-22-2005 12:21 PM

Ironic ! I just took that very same wheel (signature kinda faded the same) off my 73 ! I was going to toss it but it's it nice shape.. What's it worth ?

Oh yeah, th epoint is - it fits an early car too, obviously... But you need the momo adapter too. (a good thing for your driving position as that brings the wheel a tad closer to you and further away from the dash)

moazam 06-22-2005 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoCal911SC
How did RMG determine it needs a top end rebuild?
Compression test, leakdown, etc. They said I can come by and watch them do the tests over again. I think they're correct though.

moazam 06-22-2005 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoCal911SC
I'm sure their numbers are correct.

I was just curious as to what the problem is. For example, are they saying it's worn valve guides? Does a leakdown/compression test tell you if the valve guides are worn?

Either way, if the numbers are bad, they are bad, so some rebuilding is in the future. I was just curious as to the specifics of their diagnosis.

I didn't listen 100% when he was telling me, but basically 2-3 of the cylinders are very weak. I'll ask him later about details. I'm trying to get in contact with my brother just in case he still wants to keep it and do the rebuild. Most likely he won't as it's a hassle for us.

PhatRedHead 06-22-2005 01:44 PM

i still want that momo , you know wanna sell it to me ;)

kasi 06-22-2005 01:48 PM

Moazam, I like the right rear quarter panal :D :D SmileWavy

moazam 06-22-2005 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kasi
Moazam, I like the right rear quarter panal :D :D SmileWavy
Hah!! You just wish you could bring over a saw, a welder and some blue paint! :)

MIK911 06-22-2005 04:10 PM

Since you're gonna sell the car, wanna swap seats +$$? I've got a '86 w/ blk seats.
email me
thanks

mike

s5uewf 06-22-2005 04:10 PM

Hey, that looks like Jackie Stewart's signature. I think he use
to race for Ford before he joined Wide World Of Sports as
a commentator. Did he ever race Porsche's?

Cool to have the wheel, though - he was a top racer
back in the day...

Nice 911! :D

cbeers 06-23-2005 10:00 AM

Moazam,

I was just over at RMG this morning talking with Dan, I am sorry this car turned out like this. You can absolutely trust those guys for sure, they are first rate all the way around. I can't tell you how many times they have gone above and beyond the call for me. Sounds like you will be taken care of one way or the other.

-Chris

syncroid 07-10-2005 04:34 PM

Hi all. I'm new to the boards here. Not new to the Porsche community though. SmileWavy I work at RMG.
I purchased the car from Moazam.
Currently the engine is out of the car and under repair.
Heres leak down of #1 cylinder. Its good!
http://www.heinys.com/Carrera/DSC05612.html
Heres #2 @ 80% leakage.
http://www.heinys.com/Carrera/DSC05608.html
Heres #3 with about 65% leakage.
http://www.heinys.com/Carrera/DSC05610.html
#4 is excellent.
http://www.heinys.com/Carrera/DSC05609.html
#5 isn't looking so great at 73% leakage.
http://www.heinys.com/Carrera/DSC05611.html
And finally #6 which ended up with the best leakdown.
http://www.heinys.com/Carrera/DSC05607.html

niner11 07-10-2005 05:08 PM

Thanks for the pics and welcome aboard. I need to mess with the parking brake on my 82SC in the near future so those close-ups are helpful. Chuck

syncroid 07-11-2005 06:23 PM

No problem at all. I am glad the hand brake pictures were helpfull. I will try and keep the gallery updated as I progress on the car. We only work four days a week. (shop time) I will work on the car Fridays and Saturdays and keep taking pictures as I go. I replaced the oil lines to and from the oil thermostat tonight but thats not worthy progress. Hehe
More later.

Dan

makaio 07-11-2005 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by s5uewf
Hey, that looks like Jackie Stewart's signature.
That's whose it is.

claptrap 07-11-2005 08:22 PM

Likewise, detailed pictures like this are helpful for me too.

Thanks;
Scott

syncroid 07-17-2005 10:54 AM

Weekend #2 has been a lot of work on the car and it is progressing well.
Thursday nights job after hours was to rebuild the sunroof and install the correct steering wheel for the car. .
I installed the 930 tierod kit and bought the tires. (Bridgestone S-03) The wheels and tires are currently at Custom Alignment and will be ready Monday morning.
Fridaywas spent finishing up cleaning the rest of the engine parts, installing the new engine insulation pad, and servicing the chassis. All day Saturday was committed to re-assembling the engine. Its all done with the exception of the sheet metal and installing the muffler. The sheet metal is out being powder coated and should be ready early this week.
I replaced the cams, rocker shafts, rocker arms, swivel feet, and locknuts. All of the valves were replaced. All of the machine work was done by Ted Robinson of German Precision. He's the man!

For those of you that like pictures and want to see the progress.
http://www.heinys.com/Carrera

Till next weekends update.....

Dan

jkarolyi 07-17-2005 03:06 PM

Cool Synchroid! So you're basically giving it a top-end job only? I'd like to see your leakdown numbers afterward. I also see you gave it a good steam clean...I wish I had a place like that near me. You will have to post pics when she's all done!

jyl 07-17-2005 06:47 PM

This was a lady-driven 911? Hmm - a lady who drives a 911, ordered sport seats, added a Momo wheel, and apparently drove it hard enough to tire out the top end.

Was she hot?

jkarolyi 07-17-2005 10:17 PM

Maybe she was back in 1987. :D

syncroid 07-30-2005 11:35 AM

99% done with the car now. I took last weekend off for some needed rest. Two things left to do. 1. Four wheel alignment with corner weighting. 2. Install new sound system.
The photo gallery has been added to. Sorry they are not in perfect order.
http://www.heinys.com/Carrera
Here is the list of stuff done to the car since July 1st.

http://www.heinys.com/Carrera/DSC05749.html[list=1][*]R&R power plant[*]Rebuild top end of engine[*]Replace complete clutch and ring gear[*]Replace engine compartment insulation pad[*]Replace front and rear hood shocks[*]Replace front and rear brake rotors, pads, and sensors[*]Repack front wheel bearings[*]Replace hand brake shoes[*]Replace broken brake fluid reservoir[*]bleed brakes[*]Replace both fog light lens and install euro tail light lens[*]Rebuild sunroof[*]Evacuate and recharge A/C[*]Remove "butt ugly" steering wheel and install correct wheel[*]Complete chassis steam clean[*]Replace both oil lines to and from oil regulator[*]Install 930 tie rod kit[*]install rack spacers[*]Replace main engine fuel lines[*]Powder coat sheet metal[*]Have all door dings removed[*]Install chin spoiler[*]Lower car to my liking[*]Replace all shocks with Bilstein HD[*]Replace tires with Bridgestone S-03 Potenzas[*]Smog check[*]And last but not least...drive the darn thing![/list=1]

87coupe 07-30-2005 12:03 PM

Looks awesome Dan http://forums.pelicanparts.com/ultim...ons/icon14.gif

syncroid 07-30-2005 12:27 PM

Thank you very much! http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/pint1.gif
I think I am falling in love with her. Now I just need to come up with a good name for her. Time to sit back for a bit and enjoy it.

87coupe 07-30-2005 01:02 PM

I have basically the same car. I'm gonna have to drop by RMG and check yours out. BTW, I saw on the RMG site your into q3, haven't played that in ages ... I used to run a q3 server named ALOTTAFAGINA, pretty popular server back in 2000. That was when I was at Netflix.com and had a 6mb pipe into the house paid for by work ... ahh the good ol' days.

syncroid 07-30-2005 01:34 PM

I should probably update my RMG profile. I still like Q3 but have not played it in about a year. No time! Maybe when I get my new computer finished (if ever) I'll load it up again and see how rusty I am. The new box has a 3800+ AMD CPU on an ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe mobo with two 74 gig raptor hard drives. All I need to do on that is throw down on two very expensive graphics cards and some memory and that project is done. I am enjoying the current project more. (the car) The wife is more approving of me spending my time and money on the car then a gaming computer. :mad:

If you swing by the shop, I am there Monday - Thursday. Going on vacation the week after next so I won't be there then. (Aug. 7th)


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