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seasoned 911 people, Cayman yes or no?

I was wondering what the people on this site think of the new Cayman?
You all seem like seasoned 911 people so who better to ask.
Its mid engine says pure sports car and the best handling car around,
according to the magazines.
Looks are subjective but I think its one of the best designs Porsche has ever made.
I also love the 550 and early 911's for artistic design.
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hell yes. sounds like a great car. Within a couple of years people will be buying them for half of what they cost now and shoving cheap 997 replacement motors in them. Thats my plan, anyway
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Yep. I'm siging on to Shuie's plan...

The car is sharp! Mid-engine doesn't hurt,
...and the hatch is something Butzi wanted on the 911 before it was canned because they thought it would rattle. (Apparently, Porsche has concluded that nobody is going to notice one more rattle.)

Nonetheless, it looks like it has sleeper potential once you cram your 3.8 -997- motor in there! You don't suppose the 3.8s have RMS leaks, too, do they? (Must be a "scroll seal".)

Not that that would deter me. It's just that I'd have to get one of the oil catch-pans from underneath the Sprite...

(After all, any 911 owners knows that oil leaks make a sports car seem more sporting!)

I'd steer clear of any first generation model.
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he is such a drama queen...
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yes but it is way too heavy...
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yes but it is way too heavy...
I can fix that...
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Im glad to hear most of you like it.
Someday I might get one, "used"
I've heard it compared to a 73RS, I doubt it tho. but it sounds good.
Can't wait to test drive one.
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YES

I’ll buy a stock Cayman RS lightweight and make some more “improvements” right away.

Yes, appearance is very subjective. I think it is too “busy” appearing – the light & trim in the L&R front, the gills in the side air inlets, the treatment around the rear window, the rear quarter window shape, and a few more. The beauty of the 911 (well, most versions) is its simplicity of form. The 997 coupe came back to that wonderfully. All that said; the Cayman will grow on most of us.

I’m in favor of simplicity. Not just in appearance but in the overall design. I follow the theory that if I don’t need it, it isn’t there, it doesn’t weigh anything, it didn’t cost anything, it doesn’t need servicing, and it can’t malfunction. Porsche has been a master of making what is there function incredibly well. I think a Cayman (and certainly an RS lightweight) is a step in the right direction.

For quite a number of years now, Porsche has followed the crowd with more and more “gee whiz” features. Yes, some have been very innovative. Some are useful. Some have dramatically improved the performance. Some keep the engineering staff busy. But the result is a 3-4000# 911 that is expensive, complex, and more difficult to repair. In spite of any perceived shortcomings on my part, the 911 has many more decades to fill the hands of happy customers including sensible me. The Cayman RS will allow Porsche to fill the desires of nuts like me.

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is this the coupe or the sedan i've heard about?
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I've heard it compared to a 73RS

Love to know how they figure that one? Yes with reservations.."too heavy", as Randy said.
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i agree, the name is terrible. The marketing guy who allowed the SUV to have a better name than the mid engined coupe should be strung up
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Big yes to the car, but make mine a lightweight, and I agree there's a little too much fussiness in the styling. Too bad about the M96 motor too. It'll be interesting to see how this motors known problems are resolved over time.

But yes, the car has got the basic ingredients for greatness, and the name isn't that bad is it? I like the name better than Cayenne personally.
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It's tough to screw up a mid-engine coupe. I doubt that the engineers we've come to know and love (or hate, when we're elbow-deep in the engine bay trying to pull that one last bolt that we can't reach) have the capability to do it Wrong (tm). Leave that to GM.

That said, I'll second the "too heavy" sentiment. My next Porsche may very well be a Cayman that some guy bought, turned into a track car, and then "has to sell because of the new baby."
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I like it. I do not care for the gills on the side.

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