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Another Yellow Zinc Hardware Source
This arrived this morning from the UK. 1670 pieces for $105 including shipping. I'm not going concours,
just love the look of clean, new yellow zinc fasteners. Head of bolts are marked "JD 8.8". http://www.auto-connect.co.uk/acatalog/Assorted_Boxes_Packs.html http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1125072284.jpg |
Those are nice!
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Whenever I remove a nut or bolt on my car, I replace it with a new part since I got a great deal a few years ago on yellow zinc plated parts from a fellow Pelican.
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Does anyone have a US-based source for similar sets?
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If you go to wurth.com and click on the english version, you will be able to pick what division in the US has the hardware kits. I've seen them on the backs of their brochures. They are the same ones that make lots of oem sealants and such. But their selections of hardware is almost second to none.
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The problem with the Wurth fastener kits, at least the one I bought some years ago, is that they are not yellow, but a soft silver finish. Most kits I've seen are not yellow zinc. The following are a few suppliers in the US, but it will take some work to put together what you want. That's what I liked about this UK place. They show you what the kit looks like and are very reasonably priced,. My order worked out to $.06/pc.
boltdepot.com eagleday.com (nice kits but $$$$) Hillcofasteners.com mdmetric.com mcmaster.com My local ACE hardware carries a good assortment of metric fasteners, SOME of which are yellow zinc, but only by the luck of the draw. You can't order a box of yellow, you just get what they happen to be sent. |
Mike,
If you find that there's some sizes not included in the kit you got? Metric-Multistandard Components Corp. has a great selection of metric stuff. http://www.metricmcc.com/ Check out the catalog and you'll see what I mean. Best part about 'em is their Chicago location is in Burr Ridge, nearby to us. 261 Shore Court Burr Ridge, IL 60527 630.655.9009 / 800.221.4469 Which is just off of Route 83 and 83rd St. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1125155148.jpg Sign up for an online account and you can place orders, then go pick 'em up. Of course you can call-in your order too. |
KTL, Are the assortment sets in yellow zinc? If so, it's great to have something close to us, for a change. Thanks!
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Cad Plated is the way to go... Far more resistant to corrosion... However, don't buy your hardware from the local Ace hardware, or McMaster Carr. They're fine if you're doing some home improvement projects, but don't go the cheap on the car! If you're going through the effort of some upgrades or a resto project, use aircraft grade hardware... You won't find metric, but SAE aircraft quality has probably 5 times the tensile strength of the material used to produce the crap you will find at the local hardware store. Check out the website below...
Aircraft Spruce |
There is no need to pay for or use AN level fasteners in most Pcar applications. 8.8 or 12.9 is just fine for the several thousand fasteners on our cars.
Exceptions would be the Flywheel, rod bolts, etc. and you can get those here. I think the AN Allen drive fastener with manf'd holes for safety wires would be a good idea for those who think that these bolts (ok, cap screws) come out even when properly installed. They are a lot easier than drilling holes in those lil' muthas, and should have a lower risk of head fracture to boot (tho Jim Sims said it was ok to drill them). PS - most of what is thought to be Cd plated today, really isn't... |
Mike,
Dunno if the MMCC assortments are yellow zinc. Description just says "8.8 Zinc" and that's all. Agreed that aircraft fasteners are not necessary. Most of the fasteners on the car are basic 8.8 property class and not all that critical. Sure, CV screws and other fasteners like rotor hub screws should be decent quality. But most of the fasteners on the car are not overly critical. And how can you do a resto on a european car with SAE aircraft fasteners? :confused: I'm not talking about originality. I'm referring to size/thread pitch compatibility! |
Pelican sells hardware kits - I bought their sheetmetal kit - very reasonable
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cad plated fasteners
Does anybody know where I can get a fastener kit like this cad plated or zinc worst case?
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Belmetric.com has a great assortment of metric fasteners, most are in yellow zinc. Stainless is also available.
I've been ordering fasteners from them for years on my restoration. You can pick up the plastic divider boxes at Harbor Freight, and then build your own kit, which is what I have done as it is cheaper to purchase in bulk for most items. |
Wurth does supply the yellow zinc but you need to set up an account with them and order the sizes you need from your local Wurth sales rep. The kits usually come silver which is just stupid that they wouldn't be yellow zinc but the newer cars use the silver crap. Lol. I've said too much.
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Wurth is also possibly the most expensive place you'll ever find for threaded fasteners .................
The Cap'n |
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It would be best that I not tell you what a screaming deal I got. See the fuel rails? They are $440 EACH new, right? Guess what I paid for fresh yellow zinc? Nope....Less than that. :eek: Move the decimal over and then divide that number in half... Even less than that. I swapped my parts for parts already plated. Not the least expensive way to go, but it was quick and easy. I saved almost $800 doing this. :eek::eek::eek: Everything on this table sans the flapper boxes, injectors, and the CAT tubes were a half a day's pay. :eek: Keep in mind that the pictures were shot with my droid in very poor light. Also keep in mind that every nut, bolt, washer, hose clamp, bracket, and the like are all OE Porsche. Believe it or not I've stockpiled every single nut and bolt for suspension by purchasing them outright for one car and swapped everything for the other. I now have at least two of everything. :p I even swapped out my spring plates http://rennlist.com/forums/attachmen...date-zinc1.jpg http://rennlist.com/forums/attachmen...ate-zinc12.jpg There are three options 1) Send your items in for fresh yellow zinc and you will be charged by the pound at 20% over invoice to have your own batch plated. Expect it to take a couple weeks to turn them around. 2) Buy parts outright that have already been plated. 3) Send in your parts for parts already plated. Basic trade plus cash. I've done option 2 and 3. ...again, the pictures are from my droid in poor light. Even swapped out my spring plates and all the supporting hardware at Einmalig. http://rennlist.com/forums/attachmen...-einmalig1.jpg ....and to answer your question, you can walk into any O'Reily's or Autozone and find a wide selection of metric fasteners in yellow zinc. |
Here's an article about nuts and bolts. It doesn't really deal with restoration since it's aimed at the racer. Still good information though.
Did you know that a bolt is really a spring? Richard Newton |
I recently ordered some nuts, bolts and washers from Eagle Day. They have kits for other Porsches like 928, 944, etc. but nothing specific for the 911 although they have some generic kits that have a lot of the most common sizes. I keep hoping someone will put together a kit for different jobs by model year. Let's you want to do the rear suspension on an '83 so you'd get a set of the right grade bolts and nuts and whatever type of washers or lock nuts. It's so tedious and time-consuming to look through the PET!
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Yellow zinc for the purists? Even when original fasteners were CAD plated?
Sherwood |
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