Next P-car--a 993 or a longnose with 3.6?

[plymouthcolt]

I had my heart set on a 993 in the next few years as the model I would like to purchase.

Well we had Porsche Under the Stars recently in the Founders region and with all the heavy machinery 997's, 996's, 993's, 964's (you get the idea), the car I was most drawn to was this one:



It was just a beautifil machine that is simple. There's no way I could go from a 3.2 to a 2.7, so I was thinking about a 3.6 under the hood.

No racy graphics or attention grabbing exhaust note--just a sleeper body, but when challenged it would rip the doors off most cars.

I guess it all depends if I could find a roller that not a rust bucket. I certainly don't want to take apart a perfectly good classic for this Frankenstein job.

[kach22i]

Originally posted by plymouthcolt
It was just a beautifil machine that is simple. There's no way I could go from a 3.2 to a 2.7

Why not?

It's about the HP to weight ratio not cubic inches, right?

[cali74]

People normally say get the newest Porsche you can afford - but I think there's somethine to be said about having a car you did the work on and understand the different pieces. At least that way when something needs to be fixed or replaced you can either do it yourself or have a good idea what is involved for someone else to do it.

With that midset it's just a matter of finding the car that hits you the hardest when you see it. Note that this is a very biased opinion as I'm deep into my narrow bodied hot rod.

[KobaltBlau]

drive both and see. you should easily be able to tell which you prefer as they drive so differently. obviously you would have to drive someone else's 3.6/early swap. however a hot 3.2/early or similar should give you a good idea.

[Nathans_Dad]

My next car will be an SC or Carrera backdated to the RS look I think...other option is rally look. There was an article in Excellence this year about Autofarm in England that does the same idea...costs an arm and a leg though...

Also trying to talk my wife into a 993 as a daily driver...fingers crossed!!

[kach22i]

Related thread: How many 911 3.6 conversions out there ?
How many 911 3.6 conversions out there ?

I don't want to start a riot when I say this, but most of the conversions I've seen for sale are within one or two years of being done.

Two theories......................

1. Met the challenge, been there done that bored with it - flipping it.

2. Does not have the feel of an early car, nor the engineering packaged balance of a later car and is a disapointment over time.

I'd love to be that disapointed.

[Nathans_Dad]

Ok, here's a related topic that I have been thinking about...which would be cheaper:

1) Backdate a solid SC or Carrera with doing the bodywork,etc. to RS look and keep the engine (rebuild if it needs it, etc).
2) Get an early car with the longnose in place (and probably some rust repair) and either hop up the engine or replace it with a later model...

How much is the average bill for one of these backdates anyhow? I saw some scary numbers in Excellence, like $1200 for a single fender...YIKES!

[kach22i]

Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
How much is the average bill for one of these backdates anyhow? I saw some scary numbers in Excellence, like $1200 for a single fender...YIKES!

I suppose if you were going to be replacing body panels - taking advantage of current materials such as carbon-fiber/kevlar could make it very expensive (and great).

[Joe Bob]

Well let's see....I just finsihed my SC backdate. fiberglass Front fenders, hood, front bumper and splitter ran 2K. Installation and paint extra.

I already had done the rear and the duck with the 3.6 install from 3 years earlier....

[Moses]

Originally posted by kach22i
Related thread: How many 911 3.6 conversions out there ?
How many 911 3.6 conversions out there ?

I don't want to start a riot when I say this, but most of the conversions I've seen for sale are within one or two years of being done.

Two theories......................

1. Met the challenge, been there done that bored with it - flipping it.

2. Does not have the feel of an early car, nor the engineering packaged balance of a later car and is a disapointment over time.

I'd love to be that disapointed.

Once you drive an earlier 911 with an extra 100 HP, there's no turning back. I don't think anyone has been disappointed.

We all think of things we would do differently, maybe a coupe, maybe an early car, maybe coil-overs.

It took a while to get mine sorted out, and much more money than I'll ever admit, but I have a deep and abiding love for my car that is not fading with time.

[Nathans_Dad]

2k for all the body panels except for the rear decklid? That's a lot less than I figured...did you use used parts or new? Steel or fiberglass?

[Joe Bob]

Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
2k for all the body panels except for the rear decklid? That's a lot less than I figured...did you use used parts or new? Steel or fiberglass?

Read it again....

2k for fiberglass, front hood, fenders, bumper and splitter....oh yeah, the turnsignal assemblies. TRE was the retail supplier....the hood allows for latching using the stock SC assembly w/o having to mangle the front end.

[Jack Olsen]

A 3.6 in an early car is a hard combination to beat.

[Nathans_Dad]

Ah, missed tha fiberglass part in your original post...still it's less than what I figured on...maybe my dream CAN come true!!