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mmasse 11-17-2005 12:20 PM

3.6 conversion heating w/stock heat exch.
 
I would like to know what type of hose the 3.6 gurus used on their conversions. I am keeping the 993 heat exchangers, so i need a hose which connects the outlet of the exchangers (oval) to the connector for the heating.

Winter is coming and I would like to be ready!!!

Thanks

widebody911 11-17-2005 12:41 PM

On the top or the bottom?

On the bottom, I fabbed up my own connector with exaust tubing and a piece of aluminum dryer hose. For the top, there's a really trick carbon fiber piece available :)

mmasse 11-17-2005 12:45 PM

thanks Tom. My problem is on the bottom, I already have the carbon fiber tube for the top ;)

Do you have any pics of your setup?

widebody911 11-17-2005 01:03 PM

It isn't pretty, but it works...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/heater1.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/heater2.jpg

mmasse 11-17-2005 01:39 PM

Thanks

johnsjmc 11-17-2005 02:00 PM

A much nicer solution is to use the 993 cast aluminum heat crossover tube. I found one on this BBS for $75 I then used 2 1/2" aircraft defroster hose (the orange silicone high temp stuff ) which is the same as Porsche uses originally I think I paid less than $40 for 6 feet.I made 2 simple funnel adapters from sheetmetal to connect to the oval outlets. It works well and looks fine.

Bill Verburg 11-17-2005 02:09 PM

W/ 993 header use the 993 heat tube
You can see it here below the sheetmetal, if the cat was present it would be below the heat tube.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1132268831.jpg

On my 993 I use B&B headers w/ a 964 heat tube.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/MotorCit...20005small.jpg

mmasse 11-17-2005 04:46 PM

john, where can I get the 2 1/2" aircraft defroster hose ?

Thanks

johnsjmc 11-17-2005 04:58 PM

I called a small airplane repair place at our local airport,from the phone book.. They had it in stock for a Cessna I think I just described it as high temp silicone hose possibly orange and they had several diameters.Sold by the foot..A hydraulic hose supplier I spoke to knew exactly what I was looking for also but had to order it and I would have to take 12 ft @$8/ft.min. They suggested the aircraft industry used it for defroster or heater duct.
Timmons will sell you the same stuff I think he wanted $75-80 for 5 feet plus shipping.He wanted about $100 for the 2 sheetmetal adapter funnels.The end result looks exactly like a pic on his website but costs much less.

CBRacerX 11-17-2005 07:16 PM

Take a look here at the very effective heating system I have with mostly stock 993 parts. I have a 993 heat tube for sale if you need one :)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/195581-i-got-crabs-weekend.html

Chris

Joeaksa 11-17-2005 08:18 PM

Chris,

Just left you a msg on the other thread. Might be interested in the tube.

JoeA

wpw3 01-23-2021 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnsjmc (Post 2241780)
A much nicer solution is to use the 993 cast aluminum heat crossover tube. I found one on this BBS for $75 I then used 2 1/2" aircraft defroster hose (the orange silicone high temp stuff ) which is the same as Porsche uses originally I think I paid less than $40 for 6 feet.I made 2 simple funnel adapters from sheetmetal to connect to the oval outlets. It works well and looks fine.

Hello

What is the part number for the "cast aluminum heat crossover tube? Do you happen to know?

CBRacerX 01-23-2021 08:28 PM

I still have one of these 993 cast crossover tubes for sale :)

911pcars 01-23-2021 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmasse (Post 2241486)
I would like to know what type of hose the 3.6 gurus used on their conversions. I am keeping the 993 heat exchangers, so i need a hose which connects the outlet of the exchangers (oval) to the connector for the heating.

Winter is coming and I would like to be ready!!!

Thanks

In my recent 3.2 build, I pre-fitted 993 HEs, but wanted to begin with the existing bolt-on 2in/2out muffler and SSIs. However, here's how I fabricated the early hot air system onto the 993 heat exchangers:

Heat exchanger inlet modified for valve cover access:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1611462699.jpg

45º silicone elbow adapter connects engine air shroud hose to HE inlet (There's a short internal tube behind the double hose clamps to connect the SCEET hose to the silicone adapter.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1611462699.jpg

Heat exchanger Al outlet hose adapter (Revotec.com). I don't recall the large OD end (before reshaping), but the small end is 2.5" OD:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1611464837.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1611462699.jpg

Al adapter annealed, then ovalized and expanded a bit to fit heat exchanger outlet:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1611462699.jpg

Hose connection, HE to cabin hot air valves using add'l 2.5" (63mm) SCEET hose as above:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1611462699.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1611462699.jpg

Works for both Gillett and Bishoff HEs (Gillett shown). Add'l SCEET and hose connection tubes missing:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1611465114.jpg

Hope this helps,
Sherwood

midnight911 01-23-2021 10:00 PM

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