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Magnecor or Beru (OEM) Spark Plug Wires
My '89 Carrera has the original wires and I am thinking of swapping them out.
What do you guys thing? Expecially those of you who have replaced the wires with one of the two. OEM Beru -Originals and ~ $120. Magnecor - Twice the price, but supposedly better performance. New wires always improve performance but are these really better?? Thanks in advance, Luis 
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I installed the Magnacor wires after my originals started giving their very own engine compartment light show. Was pretty cool at night, just didn't do much for performance. Where did you find a set of Beru's for $120.00. If I did it over I would definitely install the Magnacore's again.
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Different strokes for different folks.
The Mag's are more reliable +.
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I love my Clewetts from our host. They even customized the coil wire for me...
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I'd go with the Magnecores but shop around for the best price first. I got mine 2 years ago for $140. I've also heard good things about the Clewitt wires.
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12-28-2005, 04:45 AM
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I have the Magnecore's...installed them 4 - 5 months ago and have had no problems w/them, however my original Beru wires were well in need of replacement, so anything would have been an improvement.
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12-28-2005, 06:47 AM
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I paid $129 for magnegcors a couple of years ago. At that time that price was about half of what the beru wires were going for.
They worked fine for a while, but eventually the rubber seals around the walve covers went south and deformed so they wouldn't seal. I found an incredible deal on the OEM wires ($55 new) at a swap meet and installed them. The engine ran better with the new wires. That means that in a year and a half the magnecors were costing me performance as well as a slight loss of cooling capacity. If the OEM wires are cheaper or even close to the cost of the magnecors, go OEM. If the magnecors are half the price of OEM, it's a toss up IMO. Last edited by sammyg2; 12-28-2005 at 10:24 AM.. |
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Magnecors aren't better than OEM. It's all marketing hype and "coolness" factor. The Beru wires are as good as you'll find.
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$240 is a rip off. Shop around
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Beru connectors...unfortunately..are prone to moisture related problems....
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magnecor all the way. I have a new set of stock Beru's AND Magnecors. I compared them side by side. The magnecor offered a smoother idle and ultimately allowed me to gap the spark plugs a bit more(I keep them gapped at .040 yet have heard of people going even bigger with no issues). The stock wires were an improvement from the old worn out wires that were on my car but, the Magnecors were a definite improvement over even that. The major benifit is that they are cheaper. I would recommend going with the red 8.5mm Magnecors as those are the ones I tested and currently use. Hope this helps
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12-28-2005, 11:57 AM
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I put them in the catagory of expensive speaker wires, little return on your money.
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I think the best bang for your buck are OEM "pre-braided" wires. If I understand correctly the OEM wires say from a 1973 911 that don't have the stainless shielding work great on later cars,fit well and are OEM quality.
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What about the good old Bosch wires?
Much cheaper than the Berus (which my car has), but I don't know if they're problematic or not. I bought 'em anyway...  ianc
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I bet the Bosch wires are going to give the same stock or near stock performance as the Beru's. The only time you are going to see a performance increase is when you get larger spiral would wires on their such as: Magnecor red 8.5mm. When I say performance increase, I mean nothing you are going to really notice by the seat of your pants but, more like a better idle and/or throttle response.
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I replaced the stock with Magnecores (after Clewetts, which failed after the first rain due to moisture wicking into the boots), and I'll definitely go back to stock.
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Funny. I'm in mid installation right now. The Bosch wires have Beru ends on them (plug ends). They also seem rather long, but will press on...
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Ok. It seems like a lot of people love the Magnecors.
Now which one: 7mm (oem size), 8mm (blue), or 8.5mm (red). Is the increased conductivity of the 8.5 too much and causes a rich burn? Thoughts?? thanks, luis g.
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Any quality wire with good connections will get the job done. I went with Magnecors at the time because they were cheaper than OEM. If the OEM's would have been cheaper I would have bought them. I got the red cause they look cool. But keep in mind you will have to slightly drill out the stock holders for them to fit. Easy to do and there are a couple of threads on here on how to do it.
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Magnacor 7's might be the ticket. The 8.5's require drilling out the holders ( as mentioned)...yet the stock spark system is incredibly strong when in good working order. The Beru end connectors aren't as water-tight as they can be, Magnecors seem better in this area...so this altogether might be the best compromise ( and they're black, instead of bling red !). The 8.5's really crowd the distributor cap too....and try as you may...you might not get a really tight connection there with 8.5
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