John,

You know, here is probably a very knowledgeable and enthusiastic owner who found the best possible starter 911 for his son. Yes, originality counts for a lot but I can’t imagine anyone keeping thermal reactors in place. Sure, store them in a box in the garage with ’74 heat exchangers on the 911. I don’t understand updating to the 1.82:1 11 blade fan and front cooler, and NOT changing the exhaust.

I strongly agree with maintaining the ability to return to exact original condition. I think there is significant value there for a semi-collector car. I don’t see that the original fan and oil hose are available. This seems to be sorta an interim effort with lots of miles and some modifications.

It looks to be a nice car that can be further modified and be a nice driver or returned to original for show. It won’t ever win the Manhattan IMHO.

I agree about the price. It isn’t so much about this car but the market.

I wouldn’t give it to my (college sophomore) son as a driver because it shouldn’t be used up like that. It should sell in the $5-9K range. Someone with the passion and ability should preserve and restore it over the next 20 years. My son has several “resting quietly” for when the time is right for him. The good news is he appreciates Porsche.

Forever, this 911S can be a good example of a mid-year 911. It will never be a very valuable collector’s car IMHO.

Best,
Grady

http://www.californiacars.com/cardb/details.php?id=121

Found this one for $7,950

Anybody know the scoop on this place?

Nope, but as most of his cars are priced pretty high I can only IMAGINE whats going on with that one!!

I wouldn't suggest buying any 2.7 that hasn't been completely rebuilt including up-grades and reputable paper work to confirm it.

There's an SC in our area that's pretty close to you. Its in that price range and has a brand new top end rebuild (and lots of other goodies):

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/257444-fs-1982-911-sc-targa.html

Edit: after linking to that thread, I saw you sent a PM. Anything ever happen with that car?

John D......the car in the above link is unbelievable! The current owner has dedicated much time and love into it and it shows. Take it for a spin, you'll see for yourself. :)

member Kstyllanos is a class act.

Even the engine shroud paint job is exotic.

I know you like that car because of its color combo and its apparent originality (it does look nice) but objectivity and patience must prevail. Looking and wanting is frustrating but in the end it will pay off. I would walk away from that deal at that price. The owner has tried to take a tough stance so tell him your final offer and that if he can't get his price from someone else to call you when he's ready to deal. Also, the head stud replacement isn't like having an air filter replaced or something. It's expensive and you'd be showing the receipt to everyone who looks at the car. If the guy isn't sure when it was done, I'd wonder. You probably can't get as nice of an SC at that price (around here at least) but I'd look around. Or look for a mid-year that has a better history (no thermal reactors) or engine swap.

Also, the galvanizing wasn't so great on these older cars. Since it's from the Northeast you should check over the body very carefully if you do go ahead with buying it. Don't rely on the PPI to uncover body issues. You can find a thread somewhere that will direct you to the most rust prone spots.

Also, if you still want it find out the cost to replace the exhaust and then ask him to deduct it from the $12k.

And don't automatically trust a guy just because he's a "reputable" member of the p-car community and has other Porsches. I got burned on that one once. Trust, but verify.

If brown works for you then I would jump on that one.

Thanks everyone !
I've been in contact with Charlie about the Rosewood Targa and I have not ruled his car out.
He is in Blacksburg VA right now and the car is in DC at a friends house.
The problem for me is time being in the tax business.
It is difficult for me to drive to DC round trip in one day.

I'll see what I can do.

With a new Porsche the ride back will be a little quicker and more exciting. :)

VaSteve,

I see you have a Rosewood one also.

I'm about to go check out a black SC Coupe in nice shape for 13K about an hour from me.

But after looking at Charlie's car again I just can't resist.
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I will get in touch with him.

Also, It was not my idea to look at the 77 in the first place. My brother spotted the car and said it was worth looking into based upon the description and price.:mad:

Anybody want to drive his car to my house??

Johnhttp://www.pelicanparts.com/support/.../cheeburga.gif

Charlie's car looks REALLY well sorted. I doubt you would go wrong with that car.

Another vote for the brown targa. By far the most sorted out SC I've ever seen.

John

Charlie's car is well sorted and sort of mine's twin. His has a black interior while mine is tan and dark brown. (His also has some nice engine mods.) I will miss seeing his car around but if you buy it, it will restore natural order, because I bought mine from a guy in Greensboro. :)

I'd be happy to drive it down for you. :D You'd have to get Charlie to approve :)

Also, as a fellow accountant, I can assure you Charlie's car is an undervalued property.

ok, that link to the classifieds is amazing. the entire list of what was done to the car (in less than 2 years) reads like a "who's who" of every major project discussed on pelican. ever.

the engine pics alone make me want to reach for a powedercoating machine and all the work can be traced in the "engine rebuild" section of pelican. if you like wind in your hair, judging by every component that's been "touched" and fixed/replaced, this is practically a new car.

Or, you could buy a $12k worn out SC and spend the next 2 years and another $10k doing the exact same thing.

VASteve

Sent you PM

I thought Thyssen galvanizing was introduced as early as 1976?