Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: new jersey
Posts: 187
front bilstein retaining pin

I was able to change the rear shocks in my 930 turbo without much trouble (easily said after I finished, right?).

I began the front change by trying to hammer out the bottom retaining pin with a roll pin punch. The pin quickly started to give and I thought I had it licked but at about 1/3 inch inch, it stopped moving. no matter how hard I hammer, it ain't budging. It looks like I'll need another approach.

I read in Wayne's book about drilling it out. Two questions

1. Is there a problem with metal shavings remaining in the strut?
2. What kind of drill bit functions best for this?

Thanks guys.

Q.

__________________
2004 996 TurboS Cab
2005Cayenne Turbo S
1988 930 Turbo Cab
2004 BMW M3
2007 Range Rover Sport
Old 02-15-2006, 04:56 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Member w/ Title Problems
 
Jason Porter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Bristol, VA
Posts: 975
Did you try spraying it with PB and hammering it back and forth a little. It should come right out at that point. BTW - How big is your hammer?
__________________
Jason Porter - 888-280-7799 ext 233 - jason@pelicanparts.com

1989 Chevy Silverado 3500 - 454TBI, 4x4, 8 gallons/mile
Old 02-15-2006, 05:01 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: new jersey
Posts: 187
20 oz. hammer. Dumb question, What is PB?

Q.
__________________
2004 996 TurboS Cab
2005Cayenne Turbo S
1988 930 Turbo Cab
2004 BMW M3
2007 Range Rover Sport
Old 02-15-2006, 05:04 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Member w/ Title Problems
 
Jason Porter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Bristol, VA
Posts: 975
Only dumb question is the one not asked. PB Blast, it's a penetrating oil spray, although you could use WD-40, too. I use a 3lb Estwing and tap with necessary force It usually doesn't take much...
__________________
Jason Porter - 888-280-7799 ext 233 - jason@pelicanparts.com

1989 Chevy Silverado 3500 - 454TBI, 4x4, 8 gallons/mile
Old 02-15-2006, 05:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: new jersey
Posts: 187
Thanks.

Q.
__________________
2004 996 TurboS Cab
2005Cayenne Turbo S
1988 930 Turbo Cab
2004 BMW M3
2007 Range Rover Sport
Old 02-15-2006, 05:10 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Member w/ Title Problems
 
Jason Porter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Bristol, VA
Posts: 975
No problem.
__________________
Jason Porter - 888-280-7799 ext 233 - jason@pelicanparts.com

1989 Chevy Silverado 3500 - 454TBI, 4x4, 8 gallons/mile
Old 02-15-2006, 05:16 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
mark '87 930's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 727
Garage
i am considering changing my ball joints and since I'm there, maybe change the front shocks as well. Do your struts have an insert which you are simply changing, or do you have to do the entire strut assembly for the big bucks? i have an 87 930 and really looking to doing this.

the ball joint tool isn't cheap though.
__________________
1987 930
1956 Chevy 3100
2009 Subaru Forester
2003 KX250 X2(I like my toys!!)
Old 02-15-2006, 06:01 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Member w/ Title Problems
 
Jason Porter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Bristol, VA
Posts: 975
Inserts... You should be able to loosen the ball joint with a hammer and punch, backing it out slowly, but then again, I'd get the tool if I were you. Just make sure it's on perfectly straight, and you've got a good grip on it, or you may do more harm than good...
__________________
Jason Porter - 888-280-7799 ext 233 - jason@pelicanparts.com

1989 Chevy Silverado 3500 - 454TBI, 4x4, 8 gallons/mile
Old 02-15-2006, 06:33 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Fountain Valley, CA
Posts: 360
Here is my dumb question.

Is a roll pin punch flat tipped or slightly pointed?

Did mine 1 1/2 yrs ago and if remember right I ended up using a flat tipped 1/4" punch.

The other punch I used was slightly pointed and as I hammered it started going into the roll pin and expanding it.
__________________
Quincy
Fountain Valley, CA
'83 SC, '13 P-GTS

"Air cooled, fountain pen guy, living in a water cooled, iPhone world"
Old 02-15-2006, 07:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Member w/ Title Problems
 
Jason Porter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Bristol, VA
Posts: 975
I would use a flat point, but then again, you should be able to use either. It's not going to expand that much in a press fit area like that...
__________________
Jason Porter - 888-280-7799 ext 233 - jason@pelicanparts.com

1989 Chevy Silverado 3500 - 454TBI, 4x4, 8 gallons/mile
Old 02-15-2006, 07:35 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
randywebb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Oregun
Posts: 10,040
pointed punch is more likely to wind up inside the roll pin - expand it so it won't move and break off...

find that fun thread where a guy had that happen recently

so ... flat
__________________
"A man with his priorities so far out of whack doesn't deserve such a fine automobile."

- Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Old 02-15-2006, 08:13 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
ianc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Novato, CA
Posts: 3,064
The roll pin is pointed on the end. Don't drill it; it's extremely hard and will give you no end of trouble. Optimally, find a punch just the size of the bore in the strut and use that. Follow Jason's advice and hammer it in a little, then out a little more, soaking it all the time with penetrating oil. Gripping the protruding end with vice grips might contract it a hair and make it a little easier, or you can try beating on the vice grips (with a rubber mallet of course). Good luck,

ianc
__________________
BMW 135i. Nice. Fast. But no 911...

"I will tell you there is a big difference between driving money and driving blood, sweat and tears." - PorscheGuy79
Old 02-15-2006, 10:38 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered
 
vash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: in my mind.
Posts: 31,772
Garage
Send a message via AIM to vash
my money is on the wrong punch...

the "necked down" section on the punch needs to be long enough to go the full length. i once tried it, and didnt realize the shoulders of the punch was butting up against the shock body,,DOH! i took a new pin to the hardware store and matched up the diameters closely (with a nice flat point). it took two hits. in my experience, once you get the pin moving, the battle is won.
__________________
poof! gone
Old 02-16-2006, 08:31 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: new jersey
Posts: 187
I had the same problem. The punch butted up against the strut. Once I went to a narrower punch, The pin came out.

Now I'm having a hard time hammering the new pin in. Boy!! talk about stubborn, even to get it started. I'm half way in and pounding hard. I hope I don't bend it.

Q.
__________________
2004 996 TurboS Cab
2005Cayenne Turbo S
1988 930 Turbo Cab
2004 BMW M3
2007 Range Rover Sport
Old 02-17-2006, 01:16 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Member w/ Title Problems
 
Jason Porter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Bristol, VA
Posts: 975
Finished yet?

__________________
Jason Porter - 888-280-7799 ext 233 - jason@pelicanparts.com

1989 Chevy Silverado 3500 - 454TBI, 4x4, 8 gallons/mile
Old 02-17-2006, 07:15 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:53 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.