![]() |
|
|
|
Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: OverlandPark KS (Kansas City)
Posts: 526
|
Someone with a 3.3 turbo want to trade for a 3.6TT?
No this isn't a joke. We built a motor for a customer 4-5 years ago. It was a 993 based motor converted to a 3.6 TT motor. It has K24s and a custom Fabspeed exhaust with cats. The motor is currently setup with Tec3R and to be honest this poor guy has gotten the raw deal. We built the motor, shipped it to him and it was a never ending saga to have installed. The wrenched destroyed the turbos so we rebuilt them, they messed up the wiring and we have tried to sort it. They took over 3 years to install it then The customer is at his wits end and has requested the following:
He would like 10K and a 3.3 turbo motor with the CDI, headers, cams, at least a K27 and intercooler. The motor has to be complete and have a leak down less than 10% across the board. He simply is fed up and has never even driven the car. It has never been on the road nor even made it on the dyno. He simply wants out. What is the catch...none. We have spent a lot of time cleaning up and sorting the issues that he no longer wants to spend another dime. He just wants to drive the car. The intake is polished along with the intercooler. It is painted the color scheme of the German flag. I can send pictures upon request. Please no tire kickers. I am doing this as a favor to him and would like to see him come out of this with some dignity
__________________
Stephen 94 3.6Turbo 6-speed AWD |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,563
|
Interesting, what's the full specs of the motor out of curiosity?
__________________
Merv '89 911 Turbo Cab Protomotive MAP ECU, Twin Plugged Heads, GT2-EVO CAMs, 3.3L fully finned P&C's, ARP fasteners, C2T head gaskets, Titanium Retainers, Turbo spec valves, springs & guides, 964 splash valves, GT35R BB turbo, GSF Stainless Headers, Magnaflow Exhaust, Full bay Intercooler, TiAL 46mm w/gate, TiAL 50mm BOV, Apexi AVC-R EBC, SPEC Stage3+ Clutch kit, Crane CDI Ignition ![]() |
||
![]() |
|
Crotchety Old Bastard
|
Sorry to hear about this but it is interesting timing, I just pulled my engine last week for a tranny repair.
You know my motor, it's bullitproof. What would it take to put his engine in my '78 chassis and get it running? Will it even fit in an older chassis? ![]()
__________________
RarlyL8 Motorsports / M&K Exhaust - 911/930 Exhaust Systems, Turbos, TiAL, CIS Mods/Rebuilds '78 911SC Widebody, 930 engine, 915 Tranny, K27, SC Cams, RL8 Headers & GT3 Muffler. 350whp @ 0.75bar Brian B. (256)536-9977 Service@MKExhaust Brian@RarlyL8 |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,563
|
You should jump all over that Rarly! TT baby!
![]()
__________________
Merv '89 911 Turbo Cab Protomotive MAP ECU, Twin Plugged Heads, GT2-EVO CAMs, 3.3L fully finned P&C's, ARP fasteners, C2T head gaskets, Titanium Retainers, Turbo spec valves, springs & guides, 964 splash valves, GT35R BB turbo, GSF Stainless Headers, Magnaflow Exhaust, Full bay Intercooler, TiAL 46mm w/gate, TiAL 50mm BOV, Apexi AVC-R EBC, SPEC Stage3+ Clutch kit, Crane CDI Ignition ![]() |
||
![]() |
|
Crotchety Old Bastard
|
TTs are cool but I have been intimate with my engine, know every nut and bolt. Stephen's former partner Michael hooked me up with my present motor's core donor. I'd like to know what exactly is missing with this motor keeping it off the road.
__________________
RarlyL8 Motorsports / M&K Exhaust - 911/930 Exhaust Systems, Turbos, TiAL, CIS Mods/Rebuilds '78 911SC Widebody, 930 engine, 915 Tranny, K27, SC Cams, RL8 Headers & GT3 Muffler. 350whp @ 0.75bar Brian B. (256)536-9977 Service@MKExhaust Brian@RarlyL8 |
||
![]() |
|
Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: OverlandPark KS (Kansas City)
Posts: 526
|
Nothing, it runs. It is not programmed and IMHO should have the injectors down sized but that’s it. As far as fitting it in the chassis the oil tanks need to be swapped. The 78 this is in moved the tank up to C2T location. So the plumping between the two cars needs to be exchanged.
The reason for this is the location of the turbos on the TT headers places the right turbo at the same spot as the factory oil tank. No room. So the oil tank gets moved like the TT and C2T or like an original 72. It currently uses a Tilton to suck the turbos down, I recommend buying the 993TT sump and tapping the intermediate shaft and fitting this instead. You will need to figure something out with the exhaust. Currently the knuckleheads that fabbed the exhaust placed it so the lower valance will not fit. Not a big deal. I had to deal with the same thing on Monster which caused the same problem. I just custom made the valance if you remember. Brian; if you are really interested drop me an email about the motor and specs. It has been enough years I do not remember the exacts. I recall and issue with the case and do not recall how this was handled.
__________________
Stephen 94 3.6Turbo 6-speed AWD |
||
![]() |
|
![]() |
Registered
Join Date: Sep 1999
Posts: 301
|
Depending on what kind of torque that sucker makes a 915 might be a little problematic.
Interesting thought, though. |
||
![]() |
|
Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: OverlandPark KS (Kansas City)
Posts: 526
|
915 will have serious issues. A standard TT motor with K24s will make 550HP without issue. It can make peak 600. The 915 will fall a part in no time.
__________________
Stephen 94 3.6Turbo 6-speed AWD |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Snohomish, Wa
Posts: 365
|
Rarly Iam excited for you and the tt !!!! hope all works well for everyone. Cheers
|
||
![]() |
|
Insert Tag Line HERE.....
|
Unless you are drag racing, a 915 *might* be OK. (as in NO slamming gears, or AUTO-X, -- a lot of on torque/off torque..) I had a C2T (450HP) with a stock 915 for 6-7 years, with no problems, and I tracked it hard..
Putting a g50, or turbo trans (930) would be the way to go, but that gets into the not cost effective range..$$
__________________
Marc |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: May 2001
Location: San Diego
Posts: 940
|
PM sent Stephen
|
||
![]() |
|
Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: OverlandPark KS (Kansas City)
Posts: 526
|
I mean this with no disrespect but a 915 can not hold up. You were one of the lucky ones. The main shaft normally will twist from TQ. The gears are also have the size and the teeth will shear off. If your power band is high you will live longer. I have a box of trashed trannies from 930 fitments
__________________
Stephen 94 3.6Turbo 6-speed AWD |
||
![]() |
|
Low Speed, High Drag
|
If I just didn't spend big bucks on my rebuild I would have been all over this...
![]()
__________________
![]() |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Nor-Cal
Posts: 4,403
|
This doesn't happen to be Kieth's motor?
|
||
![]() |
|
Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: OverlandPark KS (Kansas City)
Posts: 526
|
Sadly it is. He is at his wits ends. He wanted to sell the whole car. I talked him out of that and this instead. He should at least get a year or two to enjoy the car.
__________________
Stephen 94 3.6Turbo 6-speed AWD |
||
![]() |
|
Crotchety Old Bastard
|
I would only use my 915 with that engine short term, until I gathered all the parts to do a 930 tranny swap.
Stephen - I'll send you a PM, your e-mail address isn't working on my end for some reason. Mine is posted below.
__________________
RarlyL8 Motorsports / M&K Exhaust - 911/930 Exhaust Systems, Turbos, TiAL, CIS Mods/Rebuilds '78 911SC Widebody, 930 engine, 915 Tranny, K27, SC Cams, RL8 Headers & GT3 Muffler. 350whp @ 0.75bar Brian B. (256)536-9977 Service@MKExhaust Brian@RarlyL8 |
||
![]() |
|
Registered
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Nor-Cal
Posts: 4,403
|
Quote:
|
||
![]() |
|
Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: OverlandPark KS (Kansas City)
Posts: 526
|
Quote:
__________________
Stephen 94 3.6Turbo 6-speed AWD |
||
![]() |
|
Crotchety Old Bastard
|
I passed on the motor. Too much for me right now.
There are some good pictures over on Rennlist. You should check it out.
__________________
RarlyL8 Motorsports / M&K Exhaust - 911/930 Exhaust Systems, Turbos, TiAL, CIS Mods/Rebuilds '78 911SC Widebody, 930 engine, 915 Tranny, K27, SC Cams, RL8 Headers & GT3 Muffler. 350whp @ 0.75bar Brian B. (256)536-9977 Service@MKExhaust Brian@RarlyL8 |
||
![]() |
|
Crotchety Old Bastard
|
I received a few e-mails from folks who couldn't find the link.
Here is one pic and the link to more. http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=254755 ![]()
__________________
RarlyL8 Motorsports / M&K Exhaust - 911/930 Exhaust Systems, Turbos, TiAL, CIS Mods/Rebuilds '78 911SC Widebody, 930 engine, 915 Tranny, K27, SC Cams, RL8 Headers & GT3 Muffler. 350whp @ 0.75bar Brian B. (256)536-9977 Service@MKExhaust Brian@RarlyL8 |
||
![]() |
|