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Is it a 7R replica wheel: ????
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I bought this wheel a while ago thinking it was a 7R rim, one reason for thinking that was that I did not know of any other 7R replicas but banded one, especially a good replica 7R rim! Anyway this rim is not banded and is actually very good. My reason for thinking it is replica is a) its cast, well at least I think it is and b) it has the profile of a later flat style 6. the strange thing is that it does not have any safety bead! very odd. Any one else seen these? Alan.UK ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Looks like a 5.5x15 outer face and then the backside has been "banded"... Nice wheel though. Try looking for a part number on the inside of one of the spokes.
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don't see a partnumber on the insides on this pic, and it seems clean enough , no partnumber and no little fox would mean it's a replica
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It's has 100% not been banded and also it exact to the 7R face, it also has, what looks like what could be a part number ground of one of the back of the petals. Also, it has the correct style ring hole for the 3 prong cap and also the reinforced webs on the rear as per, all deep6s. There are no other numbers on the back. I still think it’s a replica as it weights more than other 7Rs I have had, but it's still oddly close.
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PS. 7Rs had no stamped part number, they were all ink based. What they did have is a ground off area where the original part number would be ie) the deep 6 number ending in 06. This rim has that..
but it has a flat 6 tire profile For example: the last wheel on the left is a 7R, the profile matches all deep 6s and to similar degree 5.5s and 4.5s. The wheel 2nd from the left is a flat 6. That profile matches the 7inch wheel as shown in an early post weird ![]()
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Sure looks like a 7R, why do you say it is cast? There doesn't appear to be the porosity on the raw parts that I would expect from the casting sand.
For comparison theses are 7Rs ![]()
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edge on the back of the wheel seems more pronounced on the top ones... but that could be the picture...
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Hi Bill,
Thanks for you chiming in I thought the same as you, which is the main reason I bought it. But look at the profile of the wheel you posted, that matches every 7R rim I have had. Whilst this wheel I currently have matches the profile of a flat 6, but does not have the safety banding of the flat 6! What’s strange is that if this was a replica: why do we not see more of them. ie) why go the extent of going that far and only making a few of them. The other reason I thought it was cast is because it weights a little more (not weighted properly yet) than my other 7Rs and it does not have that forged "ring" to it when you tap it. Any help much appreciated Alan
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Svandamme, you are right, even the stepped bit on the inner rim matches the later "flat" x 15 rim, but it’s a 7inch rim with a deep 6 face.
Hmmm
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It could be a prototype wheel by Porsche.
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I have one of these rims in 15 x 6 size that I bought with some other deep sixes.
The same characteristics that yours has, no markings, webs on the insides of the spokes, etc. I thought I had something special too - until I looked closer. If you look at the flat edge where the center cap snaps in you will see the rough casting area which is quite pronounced on mine. where the lugs seat there are inserts, harder to see on your pictures but rusted on mine and quite visible where they start/stop. The outside edge of the rim has a distinct line that goes around the rim, all of my other "real" fuchs are smooth. Where the "deep" part of the rim meets the spokes there is a slight groove on the "real" fuch - and is not on these. I'll take some pictures to demonstrate the differences and add them tomorrow if it's unclear. They're fakes, but the closest ones I've seen, and I'm no expert.
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A Japanese company called Flat 4 makes accurate copies of some wheels (I know they do 4.5x15's & deep sixes).
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Re: Is it a 7R replica wheel: ????
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Axis11, I have seen the repro 6x15s you talk about. They were at Pomona a few years back in the V8 overflow section. It took me a good 3 min to determine it as a fake. The Flat Four repros are 4.5x15, and 5.5x15 only. They can be differentiated from real ones by the larger centercap hole. Flat Four has not made any other repro Fuchs sizes. |
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Could this be a modified 6j rim widened on the backside of the rim to make a 7j which would give the same offset as a 7R rim. I know several companies in the US do this not sure how noticable/obvious the addition to the rim is though???
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Hi all,
I still think it's a replica. It has 100% not been widened or welded, but does have some marks which I associate with being cast. Here are a few more pics, of the up stand, centre cap section, comparison to a very original deep 6 and strangest of all... a section behind the one of the petals that has been ground away just leaving a small "5" which is what a 7R part number ends in (but they are ink printed). The grinding is a little course so I suspect it may have said 7x15 and the 7X1 has been removed, but it is still a little strange. ![]() ![]() ![]() I bought this rim, thinking it was an original one. It is now surplus to requirements so if you want a cool spare or think it's something else, then please let me know. Price £250 or that’s $435 (quite a bit less than what I paid) Thanks Alan |
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