Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Porsche Forums > Porsche 911 Technical Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
KALLGREN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Hudson NH
Posts: 98
Alloy Decklid Repair

I have an early 911 alloy decklid in need of R+R. The skin on this is in very good condition, however there are a few cracks which need attention.

I have a few questions and seek the wisdom of the web.

#1 What is the best way to strip the old paint without damage?

#2 Is DIY repair feasible for the cracks? My MIG welder offers a kit to convert it to aluminum welding but I am skeptical that this will be a suitable solution.

#3 What are these things worth anyway? It seemed a bit expensive at $50 given the condition of my wallet. I have checked the used parts section and it doesn't seem they come up for sale often.

Here are a couple of shots showing the damaged areas. The first is the big crack near the latch.



And from a different angle.


This join looks like it has already been repaired, or do they all look like this?

__________________
Bill K

Gruppe B #006 as in "Flat Six"

85 911 Carrera "Black Car"
95 Ducati 900 SSSP "Red Bike"
69 911E "Red Car"
Old 03-15-2006, 06:13 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
jpahemi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
Posts: 1,798
If this lid is a real aluminum lid, it's worth quite a bit; repairs should be done by a pro in aluminum repair. The thin gauge will warp very easily if not done properly. This is by NO means a DIY project unless you're well versed in aluminum repair. $50 is for what? To repair this lid correctly it will be a few hundred $'s.
j.p.
Old 03-15-2006, 06:39 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Ayo Irpin, Ukraine!
 
70SATMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 12,493
Someone has added a new latch plate over the top of your originallatch plate.

$50 for repair is too cheap. Find an aircraft fabricator. Go to your local county airport and talk to the mechanics for references. Those guys are usually the best of the best at thin gauge aluminum repair just like your lid. Give them a steel lid to use as a guide. They are built the same.
__________________
Harmlessly passing gas in the grassland away;
Only dimly aware of a certain smell in the air
Old 03-15-2006, 06:44 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
randywebb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Oregun
Posts: 10,040
$50 is a good price for a _steel_ decklid, used.

I agree with everyone above that said your Al one is worth more and should be repaired...
__________________
"A man with his priorities so far out of whack doesn't deserve such a fine automobile."

- Ferris Bueller's Day Off
Old 03-15-2006, 07:09 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
KALLGREN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Hudson NH
Posts: 98
I payed fifty for the decklid as is.
__________________
Bill K

Gruppe B #006 as in "Flat Six"

85 911 Carrera "Black Car"
95 Ducati 900 SSSP "Red Bike"
69 911E "Red Car"
Old 03-16-2006, 02:51 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
jpahemi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
Posts: 1,798
I'll give you $60 if you want.
j.p.
Old 03-16-2006, 02:11 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 3,440
It can be repaired, no question. Mine was far more damaged when I got it. It needed a large section of the skin *and* frame replaced.

Try and find a bodyshop that deals in Land Rovers, and Aston-Martins. They will know how to deal with this lid. I pulled an elderly gentleman out of retirement ofr mine, and then had a few details corrected by my rim repair guy. Not perfect, as it is almost impossible to un-warp it completely, but very good nonetheless.









Old 03-16-2006, 02:45 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: MN.
Posts: 1,416
Garage
I'll give you $75, and send you a picture of it, after it's repaired!
__________________
Mike B.

'72 911E Coupe
Early "S" #1065
Old 03-16-2006, 02:47 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
jpahemi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
Posts: 1,798
Ok, I'll go $90, but that's my last offer.
j.p.
Old 03-16-2006, 05:37 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
KALLGREN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Hudson NH
Posts: 98
Quote:
Try and find a bodyshop that deals in Land Rovers, and Aston-Martins.

Hmm. I wouldn't have thought of that. There aren't too many astons around NH, but plenty of rovers. This will likely be better than Anger Welding and Truck Repair.

Still any suggestions on stripping the old paint? Will the "aircraft" stripper be OK on alloy or do I need to be concerned about any chemical reaction.

Also I seem to recall reading somewhere (I think it was in text on restoring an MGA) that alloy bodypanels require a special primer prior to paint. This would have been a number of years ago.

BK
__________________
Bill K

Gruppe B #006 as in "Flat Six"

85 911 Carrera "Black Car"
95 Ducati 900 SSSP "Red Bike"
69 911E "Red Car"
Old 03-16-2006, 06:41 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
techweenie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: West L.A.
Posts: 21,007
Garage
It has to be paint stripped by being rubbed on the naked thighs of young Latino virgins.

Everyone who can weld aluminun this thin is now deceased.

Really, everything about this decklid is too expensive and difficult to contemplate.

I'll pay you $100 to take it off your hands.
__________________
techweenie | techweenie.com
Marketing Consultant (expensive!)
1969 coupe hot rod
2016 Tesla Model S dd/parts fetcher
Old 03-16-2006, 08:07 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
jpahemi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
Posts: 1,798
I'll pay $125
Old 03-16-2006, 08:13 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered
 
KALLGREN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Hudson NH
Posts: 98
Quote:
It has to be paint stripped by being rubbed on the naked thighs of young Latino virgins.

That sounds like it should be a full weekend project. Too bad I didn't know the secret recipe to stripping the paint last weekend when my wife was away.

Happy St. Patties day to you all.
__________________
Bill K

Gruppe B #006 as in "Flat Six"

85 911 Carrera "Black Car"
95 Ducati 900 SSSP "Red Bike"
69 911E "Red Car"
Old 03-17-2006, 02:14 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
RLJ RLJ is offline
Senior Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 582
Garage
Do yourself a favor. Don't learn how to weld AL on this project!

Take it to someone who can TIG weld it and "knows" how, you can strip it and repaint it on the cheap, but please let a pro weld it. Fair?

The repair of the latch plate looks like it was gas welded with AL stick, it is ugly compared to TIG.

Best luck,
Randy Jones
1971 911 'Iris"
Old 03-17-2006, 02:40 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: So. Calif.
Posts: 19,910
Aircraft stripper? Aircraft, most of them made since WWI, have aluminum bodies, same as your decklid. Will also work on a SR71 (ti), but you'd need a few hundred gallons if it were painted. Test on a small area to establish confidence.

I would suggest finding a good radiator repair shop who can dip and strip the paint w/o melting it. After this, you'll see previous attempts at dent and crack repair (bondo, etc.), then as suggested by others, locate a good al. body person who can repair this.

Sherwood
Old 03-18-2006, 10:12 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NW Indiana
Posts: 1,469
Garage
You asked about value. In spite of what our helpful Pelicans have offered for the lid you should hang on to and have it repaired. They usually sell for a low of $600 to as much as $1000 for a pristine example.

__________________
Brian
'73 Carrera RS
'71 911S coupe 'Patrick'
'16 Cayman GT4
'91 C4 coupe
Old 03-18-2006, 02:53 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:16 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.