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I would leave it alone. In the coming years, 10 or 15, that car, original is going to be very valuable if you can keep the miles down a tad.
A modded one, no matter how sweet, always carries an * in the mind of the onlookers. Great looking car. |
What a beauty. Please don't molest it like so many do. I'm sick of seeing timeless classics looking like they came out of "da hood".
If you're going to upgrade, do so mildly and keep the original parts (very important). Try to keep the miles down. It will be worth a nice chunk of change in the future. Congrats! |
Dude - Its your car...you do what you want with it....ask 10 people and you will get 10 different answers. You want to modify and make it a 500whp monster that goes up the Motorway sideways...then do it....you want to leave it stock....then go for it.
The Porsche community is mixed bag of modify and drive it like you stole it or leave it alone and keep it box stock or some just do not even drive their cars period. Ask yourself...what gets your crank turning... is it driving on some backroad at full tilt with the engine bouncing to redline or keeping it under a cover in your garage....? Only you can answer these questions for yourself. Hope that helps. And yes...I modify and drive it like I stole it. Yasin |
Of my two 911's one is fully modded and one is stock with a body kit (see my profile).....
While I fully enjoy the speed and whine of the 3.6 at the end of the day I love the smoothness and relative quietness of my stock car....... |
The key is on the wrong side....
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Sport exhaust so they know to get out of the way otherwise leave it stock.
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in the long run you'll wish it were stock and immaculate.......
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I simply don't understand this fetish about keeping a 20 year old, CIS car stock. Personally, I feel no compulsion at all to be "true to the original", since the original's function can be improved on in every conceivable way, while still having it look, and be, every inch a Porsche. I suppose if you are keen on the car as an "investment", that's one thing. But otherwise, life's far too short, and the stock suggestion that you have one 930 to keep clean and one to hop-up is impractical for the vast majority of us.
Mods that don't offend the "Porscheness" of your car are out there by the truckload. Do them right, or get the right people to do them right, and the car will once again be the supercar it was when it was made. I have a 1978 930 and I've modified the bejeezus out of it. It is 5 times the car it was when I bought it. Nothing crazy--no Ford V8s, just the usual Porsche hop-ups on the engine, fuel and spark, suspension, tranny, etc. 500 + hp to the ground at 1 bar. It would run circles around its prior self. And, by any fair measure, it is a Porsche through and through. |
That's why its good to have a 2nd 930 for if you have an immaculate one already.
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To be honest i have considered another Porsche for use as an everyday car, one that i could modify, thrash the hell out of etc.
In reality though it would have to be an older (cheaper) car and i'm not sure if i could handle taking the thing out on the salt lashed roads that we have in the frozen wastelands of northern England. I don't really fancy jetwashing a car everytime i use it...... (sorry).... Once a week maybe yes. Are there older Porsche owners here that use their cars in these type of conditions, if so how do they and their cars cope? Cheers. Dave. ps. My current everyday car is a 9 year old BMW 328 coupe which has coped really well,with everything that has been thrown at it. Strange that i don't have guilt trips about leaving it a week or two without a good clean.....a Porsche not so sure...... |
I have an 88 turbo cab so I'll chime in.
I would do the bolt on mods for several reasons. The bolt on mods make the car so much more fun to drive. You have much more power (roughly 100 hp) and less lag. I find a stock turbo almost boring to drive now. So if you have a car that you plan to drive indefinitely, why not make it as enjoyable to drive as possible? Unless of course if your goal is not to drive it much and instead trailer it around to car shows with a sign on it that says "100% stock". And you'll need that sign because these mods are something most people wouldn't even notice. Secondly, it is my understanding these bolt on mods are actually good for the car. The stock intercooler stinks as does the stock turbo. Headers and a new muffler allow the car to run cooler and better. It's not like you are putting nitrous in the car and are risking blowing it up. And besides, you just keep the stock stuff and put it back on if needed. Thirdly, we are talking about an 86 turbo. I feel this isn't some collector car that is going to be worth huge dollars. This isn't a Ferrari they made 10 of. It also isn't a great year as it isn't the first or last of the line. It didn't have any major changes that make it desirable; say like an 89 which was the last year of the classic look and first with a 5 speed. Don't get me wrong. It's a very nice car but I'm guessing there must be a thousand of these out there. And by driving it 3000 miles a year it will no longer be a unique low miles car. If it helps, I left my turbo stock for a year. I then did the bolt on mods and kept the stock stuff. In 8 years I have never wanted to put the stock stuff back on. My goal is to enjoy my car as much as possible. I don't see the point in enjoying my car less just to make the next owner happy because he always wanted a stock turbo. And in the end it won't much matter since I'll be dead, because that's the only way the car will ever be sold. Good luck. |
Dave, what a great car. As a point of reference I bought an '87 3.2 Carrera in pristine shape with 55,000 miles on the odometer. Since I bought it I have put in a cage, racing seats, harnesses, new sway bars, struts, shccks and I have participated in at least 13 track events with the car. I have had a blast. However, 3.2 Carreras with 55,000 miles are just not that rare and I suspect that even stock I am facing minimal appreciation over time. A 930 with less than 6,000 miles is another animal completely. That is a very rare car indeed, and one that you can look forward to having significant appreciation over time. I would refresh the suspension, after all those years the rubber bits have seen better days, and drive it on nice sunny days. If your car had 60,000 miles I would say go for it, but 5,800 miles.....
An SC or Carrera is a much more enjoyable track car. You can modify the crap out of it and have a blast on the track or on a back road. You really have something special and over time you will grow to understand just how special. Congratulations on finding such a great car. Regards, rickdm |
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Great question. One that I have pondered. I have cut the recirculation system out of mine and have a Borla on it. Yours being a Euro with 300 HP (no recirculation pump) and extremely low miles, I would leave it as is except for perhaps an exhaust mod which can be reversed. If you are looking for mind bending speed, buy a Duke or an R1. When the 930 came out, it was literally history in the making. It still is a piece of history. Preserve.
2 cents worth Cheers |
I agree with most of the other posts. Keep it original and enjoy it for what it is, not try to make it into something else. Learn all about the car, it's advantages and its quirks. Collect period brochures and build a history. Maintain it replacing time worn items. Yours is not an every day 930, it is a special, rare, unmolested original. Choose to keep it that way, or sell it to someone who will -- it's a valuable piece of Porsche history.
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I have gotten into the more leave it alone mode too...Its will never be the same if you mod it..You can always mod it but never put it back to how it was. At least not without even more $$$..Just my 2 cents..but hey..I am building a crazy one too. :) :)
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Hi Dave,
There's not a great deal of nice unmodified 930's left in the UK, I would say leave it alone! Cheers, Tim. |
So what if this guy's car had 50,000 miles on it, instead of 5,000? Would the clamor to "leave it alone" be so loud? I doubt it. And the difference is attributable, I think, to the notion that the car's value on resale would justify leaving it alone if had such extraordinarily low mileage.
And that makes fine sense, if you buy and drive (or in the case of "investments", essentially don't drive) these things for "investment purposes". But, personally, my garage is a garage, and not a museum. I don't purchase or drive my cars primarily as pieces of history, or as shrines to the manufacturers, nor do I think of myself as a custodian on behalf of all other Porsche owners of true Porsche originality. I buy them to drive the snot out of them, as they were meant to be driven when they were made. I'll let the truly rich build the shrines and museums. But I'll use my money to better the car consistent with the true Porsche tradition--respectful of the car's past but always looking for improvement. All that said, the universe of Porsche owners is broad. It's good that there are all types in it. |
Hi and nice car!
I agree with another poster, whilst having low miles will warrant a premium price it will never appreciate significantly (just made in too many numbers) - especially if you intend putting further miles on it. I have an 86 3.2 that stays in the garage, comes out mainly in the sun only and covers around 1,500 miles a year. I wash it when i can be bothered (once or twice a year - the interior hasn't been cleaned for as long as i can remember). Its never gonna be worth anything but it should last as long as me ;) Personally I would use yours in a similar fashion. I think yours is too good for everyday use. I would not worry about making mods as long as it can be returned to stock. JMHO. Good luck. |
My '86 930 has 65K miles and I've chosen to mod the bejezus out of it. The chassis really begs for more power in my opinion.
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For God sake leave that fabulous time machine alone !!!
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