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m_wuebben 05-27-2006 06:49 PM

First engine drop
 
Dropped for trans rebuild. no injuries, minor bendage. Here is my magnet art and a tooth. The obligatory engine bay photos featuring my "help". I will be asking the traditional "should I change this" questions. Cheers, Mike
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1148784441.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1148784484.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1148784555.jpg

SP2 05-27-2006 08:45 PM

Nice job! But good god are you saying you lost a tooth in the process?:eek:

Jeff Alton 05-27-2006 08:45 PM

Way to go!! But shouldn't those helpers be covered in grease?? :)

Cheers

vanwyk4257 05-27-2006 08:48 PM

Nice work, where are you located in MI?

ischmitz 05-27-2006 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by catca
Way to go!! But shouldn't those helpers be covered in grease?? :)

Cheers

or at least a shirt .... :rolleyes:

m_wuebben 05-28-2006 03:04 AM

Yeah, ischmitz, but they were more of an obstruction look out team for the drop than actual 'help'. The rest was a one man show.
vanwyk4257, I am in Monroe, just north of Toledo, Ohio.
Well, time to break into the case, more later. Cheers, Mike

rallyracer 05-28-2006 06:40 AM

dang, you guys beat me! i should have mine out in a couple of hours for a tranny rebuild also, if i can get the return fuel line loose...

good luck!

david

-born and raised in Toledo, OH. now in Houston, TX. i've forgotten what rust looks like on a car.

Blanco 05-28-2006 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by m_wuebben
Yeah, ischmitz, but they were more of an obstruction look out team for the drop than actual 'help'. The rest was a one man show.
vanwyk4257, I am in Monroe, just north of Toledo, Ohio.
Well, time to break into the case, more later. Cheers, Mike

Yup... did mine as well not too long ago. :cool:

post pics as you get damage assesment.

m_wuebben 05-28-2006 05:52 PM

Got the end cover off. Found six more dog teeth. Not much more progress today for want of a 41mm or 1-7/16 socket. Tomorrow the rest comes out, start cleaning and waiting for parts. Cheers, Mike

m_wuebben 05-30-2006 07:36 PM

Trans is out and apart. Cleaning and waiting for parts.:cool: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1149045897.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1149045974.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1149046067.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1149046225.jpg

SP2 05-30-2006 08:00 PM

So you are rebuilding your transmission. I have never done this but would like to. Could you describe what you are doing, like in a DIY manual type of way? It seems like you have done this before? Maybe you can start a new thread on this.

What part is it with the teeth gone? And what symptom would it produce (did it produce?) Very interesting photos to newbies like me!

Thanks,

m_wuebben 05-30-2006 09:56 PM

I have followed a couple of people on their rebuilds here, that is all. There are many threads that I have copied and read. Try a search for user name 'rcecale' and subject 'Can't Shift Into First', also 'While the tranny's out' by ohecht. The article 915 Tranny Rebuild has links to more help. I have been lurking about here for a couple of years, but I am far from an expert. If you ask for help, you will get it. I will help you with what I can. I have close to 100 pics of what I have done so far. It is not that difficult at all. Cheers, Mikehttp://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/pint1.gif

m_wuebben 05-30-2006 10:02 PM

James, the part with the teeth gone is the; '915 Synchro Hub / Dog Teeth (sold per each), Symmetrical 1st Gear 911 (1972-76), 2nd Gear 911 (1972-86)' for second gear. The other with the teeth ground off is; '915 Synchro Hub, Asymmetrical 1st, 911 (1977-86) Brand: Getrag', both purchased from our host. The reason I tore into the trans in the first place is because I found teeth on a gear oil change and I had trouble shifting into first.

SP2 05-30-2006 10:52 PM

Cool. Any special tools I will need? I saw you needed a 41mm socket. Were you serious? 22mm is my largest, but I will get what I need to do the job. It is good to hear that it is not that hard. When I pull my engine this summer, tranny is on the list of to do.

Thanks,

m_wuebben 05-31-2006 05:24 AM

I am not an expert, but as is told here, you need no special tools. A good high lift jack and jack stands, 1-1/16 & 1-7/16 socket, somehow a way to remove the input shaft nut, and torque it back on (read the threads above). So far, the coming apart and cleaning has not been hard, but I still have to go back together. Cheers, Mike.

azasadny 06-10-2006 06:44 PM

m_wuebben,
I'm doing my first engine/tranny drop to replace my engine with another. What did you do to get the tranny loose? What is the secret for removing the clutch cable and transaxle bolts? I'm in Wyandotte, MI. Thanks!

m_wuebben 06-11-2006 04:45 AM

Art- once the four nuts were off, I just wiggled the trans up and down several times (the engine was sitting on a furniture cart) and I saw the parting line start to separate. On the clutch cable, I pryed the spring off and the cable releases from the spring. My transaxle bolts were, I believe, #8 capscrews. Keep in mind that I am working on a 1981 SC, so some others here may be able to help you more. Do you need some help? I may be able to come lend a hand, and moral support, but very little expertise.

azasadny 06-11-2006 05:32 PM

m_wuebben,

Thanks! I got one axle freed up, but I'm still fighting with the other. I'm going to try and get the clutch cable disconnected this wek, then hit it again ealry next Saturday and try and drop the engine/tranny together then.

m_wuebben 06-12-2006 01:07 PM

Art - I read about the pin in the other psot. I did not have that on my arm. Are you just going to leave the arm on? Cheers, Mike

mede8er 06-12-2006 02:10 PM

Ah...the good old days.....:D

But 25 years later there's still something exciting about taking this stuff apart and putting it back together....as long as it works when you're done, of course......:cool:


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