Lindsey 9 x 11 x 17 Lindsey wheels and brakes

[thotdoc]

My 9 x11 x 17 Lindsey wheels are built to fit with stock 911SC narrow body suspension/brakes.
Car is modified with 9&11 fenders.

a) I want to go with larger discs for track use.
b) I don't want to use spacers to move the wheels away from the calipers as the wheels completely fill the fenders, now.

Skipping over wide-M, other than a 930 setup, which I'm looking for, how do I determine which calipers fit without a spacer?

Thank you

[Bill Verburg]

Originally Posted by thotdoc

My 9 x11 x 17 Lindsey wheels are built to fit with stock 911SC narrow body suspension/brakes.
Car is modified with 9&11 fenders.

a) I want to go with larger discs for track use.
b) I don't want to use spacers to move the wheels away from the calipers as the wheels completely fill the fenders, now.

Skipping over wide-M, other than a 930 setup, which I'm looking for, how do I determine which calipers fit without a spacer?

Thank you

I haven't found anything, smaller than ~330mm rotor that won't fit is those wheels, the one exception is some early 17s and by early I mean back in the early to mid 90's

On mine w/ n/b o/s and 8 & 9.5 x17 purchased w/ modern w/ bbc in mind 993RS 322 front and rear fit fine.

Do check w/ the manufacturer that they made some attempt to provide bbc, virtually all modern wheels will but you never know.

[Joe Bob]

Typically spacers don't determine wheel fitment over large calipers, they space out wheels to alter track and fill wheel wells. As to fitment, Wheel Enhancement had some good information and I am sure most race manufacturers will have some input.

[Sicklyscott]

I think his point is that sometimes bigger calipers can interfere with the backside of the wheel. It's not diameter that's the problem but rather how much the caliper sticks out from the face of the rotor.

Sorry OP, I have no answers for you. I would make the assumption though that if it fits on a OEM wheel than it should fit on yours. Centers should be the same.

[thotdoc]

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg

I haven't found anything, smaller than ~330mm rotor that won't fit is those wheels, the one exception is some early 17s and by early I mean back in the early to mid 90's

On mine w/ n/b o/s and 8 & 9.5 x17 purchased w/ modern w/ bbc in mind 993RS 322 front and rear fit fine.

Do check w/ the manufacturer that they made some attempt to provide bbc, virtually all modern wheels will but you never know.

BV-you are describing the situation of a typical 17" wheel, I believe.

The Lindsey 17's are made with 16" centers.

I spoke with Mike Lindsey and he said that he could not help; had no information.

So, I'll rephrase the question as BV's response seemed to be related to ALL 17" wheels, not 16" that had been converted to 17":
With a 17" wheel made from a 16" center, what is the largest disc diameter I can use...considering that the brake calipers will also take up space?

I'm not measuring it myself because the car is in another city in a shop being prepared for the track and I'm at home looking for the next round of parts.

Thank you

[thotdoc]

Originally Posted by Sicklyscott

I think his point is that sometimes bigger calipers can interfere with the backside of the wheel. It's not diameter that's the problem but rather how much the caliper sticks out from the face of the rotor.

Sorry OP, I have no answers for you. I would make the assumption though that if it fits on a OEM wheel than it should fit on yours. Centers should be the same.

That's what my concern is; that with the 17" Lindseys, only disc/caliper combinations that fit 16" wheels will fit.

[slc215]

Hey Thotdoc,

I was curious to see if you pulled the trigger on the brake upgrade setup?? I am currently in the process myself of getting a set of 9x17 front and 11x17 rear Lindsey Fuchs, and I too would be interested in what brake caliper/rotor setup would work best.

Also, on another note, what size/type/brand street tires are you running on your 9x17's and 11x17's Lindsey Fuchs??

[thotdoc]

I bought 1986 930 turbo brakes.
Have not put them on yet.
Car is at a shop where a 1995 993 is being installed so I don't have the tire sizes, but I think it is Nitto 275 at front and 305 or 315 at the rear.
Rears fit fine even when car was lowered. But an oil line needed to be moved.
Fronts hit the fender wells and the windshield washer bottle and some bolts. Removed the bottle, cut the bolts back and put a snubber on the steering arms to limit wheel movement.

[OffCamber00]

FWIW I had 17 x 8/9 Lindseys and when i got my 930 setup, the wheels did not fit and i had to sell them. The issue was w/ caliper clearance on the wheel centers. The 6" centers used to make the wheels did not have the clearance.

That being said, I have early big fin calipers and i know some (many?) guys run the 930 / Lindsey combo.

[thotdoc]

Thank you.

I hope that is not the case this time...but time will tell and I'll post.
I spoke with Mike Lindsey and he said that no one has had any problems with the wheels and calipers.

I was surprised at how little information he was able to provide;...'I just make these wheels bigger and no one has complained and that's all I know'.

I expected more expertise in what fits and what doesn't fit from him. He said there were too many possible combinations. That may be true for me to know, but I'm not making wheels for a living.

But, a lot of people use the wheels on wide body 911s and I don't see a lot of complaints. I believe your's is the first one.

[slc215]

Nice! I was thinking of Nitto 235's front w/ 315 in the rear, but I heard that understeer may be an issue, so I am thinking at least 245 or 255 up front and 315's in the rear.

[Rodsrsr]

I have the same Lindsay wheels/tires on my 76. I currently use the early Boxster calipers all around. Probably not the answer you're looking for but it may give you an idea based on the size of the Boxster caliper. In Mike's defense, there probably are too many variables like he said. When he built my wheels all I had to tell him was that they were going on a converted wide body with 930 flares. He got the offset perfect.

[thotdoc]

I had no problems with the offsets either.
So, I take it you did not need an adapter to push the wheels out to fit the calipers. OK!

[911pcars]

To add some data to the discussion:

These are 930 calipers (pic lifted from Rebel Racing's website). I assume they're unmolested


This is the RF 930 brake caliper on my 914-six. The fins were machined around the Porsche logo to clear the backside of the factory 7 and 8x15" Fuchs. Various 911 hubs may have a bearing on this issue (excuse the pun).


When using 7 and 9x16" factory Fuchs, a thin spacer (about 4mm) provided a bit more caliper clearance.

Sherwood

[thotdoc]

Thank you; great info