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RallyJon 08-17-2006 05:23 AM

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gonna leave it stock
Stock (more or less) for now. Needs a stereo. I lost the head unit and amp during price negotiations. :D

In the future, a G64/21 or something even a bit shorter would really help this car. The power is all above 4500. The brakes are phenomenal. Handling is a bit soft. Probably do the M030/Bilstein thing for next spring.

One thing I really notice is the slower steering compared to the STI. I'm going to investigate the rumor that a 964 rack has a shorter ratio.

Bill Verburg 08-17-2006 05:28 AM

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G64/21 or something even a bit shorter would really help this car
Amen to that

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Probably do the M030/Bilstein thing for next spring
That's what mine came w/ nice street setup and ok for ocassional track

Bill Verburg 08-17-2006 05:36 AM

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964 rack has a shorter ratio.
The 993RS rack is quicker

Not sure about the 964 rack, have to do some research.

azasadny 08-17-2006 06:27 AM

Gorgeous car! Congratulations!

911teo 08-17-2006 06:38 AM

My only complains to my 993 are the puzzling gear ratios and the understeering.

The G50/21 is the best way to solve the 1st problem.
And for the suspension there are a lot of alternatives.

But all in all I love mine!

Congratulations on your beautiful purchase.

mark '87 930 08-17-2006 06:41 AM

I hear larger rims and tires makes the understeer go away..
A friend with a 993 just got 10" fikse wheels with 285's in the back... understeer is now gone!

kach22i 08-17-2006 06:44 AM

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Originally posted by RallyJon
After nine days of painful withdrawal, I present...

http://www.rallystuff.com/images/993_intro.jpg

Cripe!

It's the Virgin Mary and Jesus in the headlights car again.

It's freaky I tell ya.:eek:

RallyJon 08-17-2006 06:53 AM

Uh-oh--there are a dozen pilgrims milling about in my driveway messing with the car cover. Something about a shroud. Where's that garden hose? :D

Paul T 08-17-2006 07:48 AM

Beautiful car!! Did you get that at Holt's by any chance?

RallyJon 08-17-2006 08:01 AM

No. From a private seller in NJ. I drove a very nice, lower mileage 993 C4 at Holt's but in the end I just couldn't justify the price premium. There were some other issues as well. Holt's definitely has some fine hardware, though!

911teo 08-17-2006 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by RallyJon
After nine days of painful withdrawal, I present...

http://www.rallystuff.com/images/993_intro.jpg


But what can I say.... you have EXCELLENT taste my friend, here is mine

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1155836103.jpg

Spud 08-17-2006 09:49 AM

Is it me or has there been a rash of folks on this board converting to 993s lately?

Wayne, you best start expanding the 993 catalog :D

RallyJon 08-17-2006 09:57 AM

Yeah, Wayne. Go here: www.carnewal.com and carry their entire 993 selection. :)

Spud 08-17-2006 10:21 AM

Giddy up!

1100sport 08-17-2006 10:55 AM

993 steering set up is already shorter than 964's at least in Europe. Don't know about 964 RS versus regular 964 though.

I think steering is definitely the area where you notice additional weight the most especially if your former ride was a classic.

Bill Verburg 08-17-2006 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by mark '87 930
I hear larger rims and tires makes the understeer go away..
A friend with a 993 just got 10" fikse wheels with 285's in the back... understeer is now gone!

285/30x18 in the back increases understeer unless bigger fronts ar also used.

any of the folowing w/ adj sways is going to be a good setup
245/40 & 285/30 x18 8-9/10-11
225/40 & 265/35 x18 8-9/10-10.5
235/40 & 265/35 x18 9-9/10-10.5
245/45 & 275/40 x17 9/10-11
235/45 & 275/40 x17 8-9/9-11

RallyJon 08-17-2006 11:28 AM

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993 steering set up is already shorter than 964's at least in Europe. Don't know about 964 RS versus regular 964 though.
I think this is where I saw it:
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showpost.php?p=875846&postcount=12
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The standard 993 has a slower steering ratio that you may prefer, although some 993 owners have replaced theirs with 964 units for a more sporty feel (maybe a trade?). BTW, the 964 power rack is the same part as the one in the 993RS...

randywebb 08-17-2006 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by Spud
Is it me or has there been a rash of folks on this board converting to 993s lately?

Bill started it...

They are getting cheap enough that people with real jobs can now buy one. evenutally, the rest of us might be able to, also. They will always be more involved re repairs than an older 911.

Bill Verburg 08-17-2006 11:43 AM

the 964 has a slower rack and more rubber 18.48:1 in rhd, 2.81 turns lock to lock, 380mm steering wheel

the 993 is 16.48:1 w/ less rubber between the rack and tie rods, 2.47 turns lock to lock, 380mm steering wheel

993RS is 18.25:, 2.73 turns turns lock to lock, 360mm steering wheel

there is also a non-power assisted 964RS rack that I can't find specs for, but i'm intrigued and will keep looking.

During the transition from 964 to 993 they also changed the pressure curves on the pumps.

Bill Verburg 08-17-2006 12:00 PM

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They are getting cheap
The car is resonably priced, mods are not:(


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