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Admit to your stupidity (X-rated)

Was going to do a simple job today...you know where this is going if a mail starts like that. Kinda like Once upon a long time ago...

Needed to take of the front wheel to check wheel stud length and spacer in place. Damn, those m*@%kers are on tight. Oh, right dumbo at car shop must have had them on with impact wrench (5 months ago). Half an hour later the normal bolts are off slight scuffing, ok, well now that coded wheel bolt, s*@t will he have used his impact wrench on that as well? Surely not? First try mild pressure...(I am not Schwarzie) kaboem coded wheel nut shears off completely and cap rips off, leaving the better part on, no way to get it off. I can only imagine dumbo torqued it just to breaking point (note to myself, get RPG tomorrow when shops open and launch two splinter grenades in face of dumbo, make sure distance is ok!).

There you have it. 4 magnificent looking Fuchs and 1 F*@%ed up coded wheel nut all in an afternoons work.

Any idea's on how to go about (with the nut not dumbo at car shop, got plenty of fantasy for that). Weld on a nut to what is left? Difficult I'd say. drill it out, that is some serious drilling I need to do ...your toughts.

Michel.

Ps: Would anybody have depleted Uranium grenades lying about. Could not find them on e-bay.

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HI can possibly get you some Uranium from sellifield up the road from me if you like, but no grenades sorry, as for the wheel nut is it steel or ally'??try a starret hole saw just larger than the wheel stud should do the job, used them on ally' nut ok .

regards mike
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The hole saw worked for me. You may need to replace the bolt as well afterwards. If you do a search there's a couple of threads explaining exactly how.
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Umm... I cant really help you but I am very familiar with wanting to let more than a few " Dumbos" , retards, A-holes ect... feel the pain of a RPG

Just yesterday I bought 2 brand new tools .... One broke within 10min and the second was faulty from the get go. A few hours later the chair I bought 2 weeks ago from the same place breaks at the top of the shaft and I go for a graceful tumble into nice rusty auto parts

Dealing with people, items, tools, shops, garages ect.. that DO NOT DELIVER THE GOODS are all too familiar to me ...
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You can drill a couple of 1/8" holes axially on both sides of the remaining nut and use a cold chisel to split it, just do go into the wheel.
good luck, makes me nervous and I'm half a world away.
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Drill it out. 3/4" deep hole saw. See This Thread

And use anti-seize everytime you tighten the lugs. They are dissimilar metals & 'weld' after a while.

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Yep, thanks again guys, when I did a search nothing came up but I did not know that a lug nut is the synonym for a wheel bolt. Hey live and learn.

Also the thread you posted has a nice picture of a deep hole saw. Now if I can only translate that in decent dutch I would be fine ;o)
I swear I can not go into a shop and say I need a "diepgat zaag".
Then again there might be certain X-rated shops that would come up with something.

BTW, still looking for depleted Uranium shells to bomb dumbo at the car shop;o)
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Don't yell too quickly or loudly. My bolts/lugs had only been on for about 2 months when one of mine broke. I had tightened it myself to proper torque. So it wasn't too tight. Metal fatigue? Different alloys reacting? I have no idea.

Use anti-seize religiously & good luck getting it off.

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Don't yell too quickly or loudly.

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I will, but I am fairly confident it was dumbo's fault. I checked all other wheels and they come off easy. The wheel with the broken lug was the only one touched at the car shop, and all lugs where bloody tight not just the coded one.

Regardless, vengance is bliss

Michel
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HI Vereeken i told you i could poss' get you some uranium, just let me know how much, i have a contact for shell-cases also, so a kit of bits ,flat packed could be good IF you have the instructions to assemble, thinking about it now if you do sort the Dumbo out with it you are to bloody close for my liking so find your own, or just go round and get it of your chest about the Argro you have had with the nuts, and that the shop would be the first phone call if you where stranded with a flat. the wheel nuts usually last a long time when using the Porsche wheel brace and a deep socket/torque wrench, it is when a SHORT socket and a 1/2" drive bar/air gun is used to un-do and tighten the prob's start, you will also find that any lube/paste on the taper will also dry out with the heat from the brake and with the fractured nut will then finish of the job of snapping the nut by cam locking the nut to the wheel, even when the correct torque is applied, good luck with the wheel removal and hope there is not to much damage , hopefully non.

regards mike

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Michel,

I FEEL your pain!!! Similar issues with my little dear from previous owner and his ilk. But, we got the car for so far under retail value (less than 50%) that I cannot complain so much. But, we've put that much more into the car since... Angle griders are good when you don't care about damaging adjoining material, I've used more than my share of grinding wheels on a Dremel Tool in the past few years.

Don't remember much about depleted uranium, but we did have some nifty conventional items in Florennes when I was stationed there!!

One part of the world I WOULD go back to in an instant! Generally good people in Belgium!!!!
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That uranium stuff is just too hard to find. Now, some old motor oil, gasoline and a beer bottle, that's another story.

On the other hand, the lug nut may have been stretched or stressed at some time in the past, and failure was imminent. Good luck!!
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Next to the deep hole saw, somebody back her in Belgium suggested that I knock a 18 mm lug socket (don't now in inch but I'd say also 3/4) on the coded lug. He says that the socket is stronger then alu of the porsche coded nut and that you coud get enough grip to turn it off.
Sounds plausible?

BTW, I will be bombing dumbo on September first with Uranium shells (Thank god for e-bay!). Steer clear of Belgium that day.
Currently bidding on slightly used MIG.

Michel

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