964 can't handle a stripped out SC?! - Page 2

ianc · 09-11-2006, 11:58 AM

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I notice that none of the criticism comes from people who live in CA. I lived in the SF area for 5 years and the highways have to be experienced to be believed.

+1 on this. Weaving through traffic is a way of life around the bay area and shall continue to be so until someone in control finally decides to step up to the plate and overhaul our nearly worst in the world driver education system.

Left lane = slow idiots in 4th gear who are too clueless or lazy to give way for faster traffic.

Right lane = nearly empty.

Weave away...

ianc

wholberg · wholberg's Garage

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Originally posted by Super_Dave_D
I agree - Man I bet it was a real culture shock moving to Apex - I lived in Clayton and hated it when I got stuck behind a tractor!!

Apex would have not been too bad, I actually moved to Morgantown, WV. Once, during the first week I lived in WV, driving home at night I looked in my rear view mirror and I could not see anything. I fiddled with it for 10 seconds or so until I realized that I could not see anything there because was not any thing there (except pitch black night). It took me about 2 years to lose my city paranoia. Apex is a nice compromise, though.

afterburn 549 · 09-11-2006, 12:27 PM

If home is where I hang my hat, then any road is my track..not that I go racing every time I go for a tool, but one better have their hat on or ya get run over for being to slow...cant Winn here...too fast, to slow. Go to the track,...all I know is I do not do anything too weird if lil old ladies are crawling around in the street with Gerber goblin tricycle motors..I dont condone street racing at all ...but have been known to get into the spirit of things once in awhile.....I know no one else here has ever exceded the speed limit............................................. ......

Super_Dave_D · Super_Dave_D's Garage

The only problem is you don't know if the other driver even knows how to drive AND you don't know how the old lady on the road is going to react or over react to one of your moves. Things on the highway start at 75 quickly go over 100 fast (not that I know).

On the other hand - If a SUV pulls up next to you and a 10 year old kid is gawking at your car - you OWE it to him to make it scream and set the disease in his mind! Zero to the posted speed in the fastest way possible of course.

dd74 · 09-11-2006, 12:50 PM

There have been enough street-racing related deaths in So. Cal. for anyone to know that at least here, it's a very dangerous act in which to engage.

With that said, there's no reason your SC cannot beat a 964. On Saturday at Willow Springs, I ripped a new one into a $150,000 Ford GT.

In short, it's about the driver. And the only place you can really test both driver and car on an equal playing field, is a race track, preferably with some corners.

afterburn 549 · 09-11-2006, 12:55 PM

That reminds me why I own a 911 ...was 14 yrs old driving my sisters boyfriend 327 Impala convert threw the Adirondacks.( NO slouch either) Summer time, was passing everything in sight (dumb kid) but then came a line of cars ahead of me and curves and hills...could not get around this bunch....after a 1/2 hour or so of adrenaline pumping tries- I hear this racket behind me ! It was shifting gears,sreeeming and Almost gone by the time I woke up my sisters drunk boy friend, but got him to ID it . 911 !! Well that was the bug, got the itch, from then on I feel its my obligation to help someone else dream wake up.

stevierayvaughn · 02:21 PM

Thanks for all the posts. I can accept criticism, but I think some of you have Delusions of Grandeur. What I mean by weaving through a little traffic is going by cars as referred by someone earlier that are doing 65 in the left lane. That is all. I did not exceed 85-90 as I am educated enough to know that it is the CHP's call to impound your car at those speeds. Btw, 90 is the average around California's highways FYI.

My main point was that I hear people say get the newest you can afford.. well that sounds groovy and all but These SC's and Carrera's are a beast when properly set up. Thanks for listening.

afterburn 549 · 09-11-2006, 02:09 PM

((( SSSSHHHH.... most of us are on your side ))))))) we can let them the rest critique from their lofty throne ...(((thats probly all they have ever done ))) never drove the P car fast on city street....yea right

nesslar · 09-11-2006, 02:13 PM

I knew you were doing only what you were doing. That's Carrera talk, very similar to SC talk, as you obviously know. Gotta go now, I sense a little traffic in the area..........

'86 Targa, freshly lowered and aligned, and noisy.

jdm61 · 09-11-2006, 03:03 PM

Now the speed limit on I-275 (or THE 275 to you SoCal types) going through downtown St Pete is 65mph. Now does anyone really have a problem if someone, say in a hopped up 930, happens to reach the legal speed limit from 10 mph or so at the bottom of the entrance ramp in say, oh, 3 or 4 seconds? before they are halfway up said ramp? lol. Hey......the speed limit is 65 mph. The law is the law and we merely obey.....

As for the rest of you, butch up, Nancy!!!!!!! tell you wife that she WILL take your testicles out of her Fendi purse and put them back where they belong....hee, hee

dd74 · 09-11-2006, 03:20 PM

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Now the speed limit on I-275 (or THE 275 to you SoCal types) going through downtown St Pete is 65mph. Now does anyone really have a problem if someone, say in a hopped up 930, happens to reach the legal speed limit from 10 mph or so at the bottom of the entrance ramp in say, oh, 3 or 4 seconds? before they are halfway up said ramp? lol. Hey......the speed limit is 65 mph. The law is the law and we merely obey..... As for the rest of you, butch up, Nancy!!!!!!! tell you wife that she WILL take your testicles out of her Fendi purse and put them back where they belong....hee, hee

Huh? I didn't understand a word of that...

randywebb · 09-11-2006, 03:41 PM

I think that guy is trying to buy a purse - must be an ebay person who got lost here.

afterburn 549 · 09-11-2006, 03:43 PM

he says buck up !!!

DARISC · 09-11-2006, 05:53 PM

The CHP have a term, "lane shopping" (excessive lane changes, even if at legal speed and legal signal for each lane change). Ask any CHP how often they write tickets for this offense - you might be surprised. That behaviour is interpreted by the law as agressive driving and is considered a possible symptom of road rage.

Like it or not, agree or disagree, eventually you'll get busted if it becomes your routine to drive that way, no matter how factually safe it may be to do so by any other analysis than that of "The Law". "But officer, I never went over 60 and the limit's 70, I didn't cut anyone off and I always signaled!" will, most likely, only result in the cop pressing down harder on his pen to make sure you get a clear carbon copy of your ticket.

Not at all a finger wag, just a forewarning for those who don't know about this law.

ianc · 09-11-2006, 07:06 PM

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Not at all a finger wag, just a forewarning for those who don't know about this law.

Interesting. Where would one find reference to this in the vehicle code?

ianc

jdm61 · 09-11-2006, 07:36 PM

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Huh? I didn't understand a word of that...

What it means is drive like you want within reason, try not to attract attention too much attention,,,,shouldn't be hard....surely you don't think that you ave the only P-car in Califonrnia....lol......and stop whining........NO Porsche owner other than my mother drives below the speed limit, but she is 66 and has had cataract surgery. If SoCal or The Peoples Republic of Buggeria....oops....I mean San Franscisco...... are bad places to drive, go out into the desert or up in the hills on weekends and take out your agrro on some straight roads where your V1 can see the cops 10 miles away.....lol Try Napa on a nice weekend....you very well may be the only person who isn;'t swerving, so perhaps your high rate of speed won't draw as much attention as it normally would.

k9handler · 09:21 PM

ha ha this is funny...amazing how anyone would think a little road time in California makes you freakin Richard Petty. I will disagree that just because everyone is aggressive and poor drivers that does not make you a better driver. BTW I am not finger pointing...I know I am not the best driver and often make poor choices and speed where I probably should slow down a bit, just pointing out what I believe to be bogus.

dd74 · 09-11-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by jdm61
What it means is drive like you want within reason, try not to attract attention too much attention,,,,shouldn't be hard....surely you don't think that you ave the only P-car in Califonrnia....lol......and stop whining........NO Porsche owner other than my mother drives below the speed limit, but she is 66 and has had cataract surgery. If SoCal or The Peoples Republic of Buggeria....oops....I mean San Franscisco...... are bad places to drive, go out into the desert or up in the hills on weekends and take out your agrro on some straight roads where your V1 can see the cops 10 miles away.....lol Try Napa on a nice weekend....you very well may be the only person who isn;'t swerving, so perhaps your high rate of speed won't draw as much attention as it normally would.

Wow, that was almost Faulkner-like writing. Faulkner wrote drunk, too.

randywebb · 09-11-2006, 10:40 PM

"Where would one find reference to this in the vehicle code?"

Most states will have an index or a contents page. But I'd try to find a pamphlet for new drivers and look in that.

Almost every or every state has something like this - it's harder to prove so a cop will usually cite for something more clear.

DARISC · 09-11-2006, 11:21 PM

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Interesting. Where would one find reference to this in the vehicle code?

Truth be told, I don't know if "lane shopping" is in and of itself against the law, but have known several people who were stopped and ticketed as a result of making a lot of lane changes (don't know what code violation was on their tickets) and some months ago watched a guy get pulled over who was within visual distance of me, using all 5 lanes of the freeway to try to gain ground for probably a good 5 or 7 miles (he wasn't gaining ground, he always signaled and he was in traffic that was going and slowing between 55 & 65 -didn't look to me like he was causing brake lights to come on).

I asked a local sheriff supervisor, who was having his 911 serviced at the same shop I do, about this and he was no more specific in his answer than to say that it draws attention, it's a good way to get pulled over and if the cop has gone that far its his word against yours that you were driving recklessly, agressively or whatever he chooses to cite you for.

I play it safe and do my speeding in the two slowest lanes (ironically usually the most open if all of the lanes are generally clogged) keeping track of escape ramps as I look as far back as I can in my rear view mirror for a closing cruiser. Actually, I avoid the freeways if I can afford the time - no twisties or shifting makes for a dull ride.

For a major speed burst, wait till the bars close on a Sat. night, be alcohol free, hang in the slow lane and let several packets of cars fly by at 80-85 (if there's a cop out he'll likely be closing in on a speeding packet), have an on ramp picked as your downshift point, time it so you get to that point between packets, look back up the on ramp for a sitting squad car, if none, open it up and pass the packet in the fast lanes, that just passed you, like they're sitting at the curb, get off at the next off ramp and slink home on back streets just to play it safe.

I know a guy who did this a few years back and got his RX7 R1 to an indicated 163 with an empty lane between him and the packet
he passed.

Definitely not a smart thing to do, but 163 was pretty exciting in the dead of night. He hadn't planned to do this in advance, is lucky to have not ended up in jail, with his car impounded and I don't plan to do it again.