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3.6L Oil cooler upgrade Q

I'm upgrading my oil cooler from a standard Carrera fender mount to a front mount Setrab 22 1/2" x 8 1/2" model 1-STD172. Will this be sufficient for track work by itself or should I use it in conjuntion with the Carrera cooler already in place? This is for my 3.6L engine in my SC. Thanks

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Old 09-27-2006, 09:24 AM
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I use a single B&B frt oil cooler 5 1/2 X 2 1/4 X 20

It's hard to compare across brands because most of us haven't had more than 1 front mount installed.

Rob Fussi aka Muffinman used a B&B FPOR-9400 Front Spoiler Mount Oil Cooler, with a core size of 6" x 3" x 24" this is the next size up from mine.


here's a link to his install
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I've done mine three of different ways:

Fender-mount Carrera cooler by itself - inadequate for all but the mildest climes.

Two fender coolers: http://rennlight.com/howto/cooler/

Fender cooler and bumper cooler: http://rennlight.com/howto/bumper-cooler/

FWIW, the 2nd setup works better.
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I've done mine three of different ways:

Fender-mount Carrera cooler by itself - inadequate for all but the mildest climes.

Two fender coolers: http://rennlight.com/howto/cooler/

Fender cooler and bumper cooler: http://rennlight.com/howto/bumper-cooler/

FWIW, the 2nd setup works better.
Tom,
Nice info! Do you collect your temp data from the oil gauge alone? OR use a thermometer in the tank? Have you verified that the temps are accurate?

I noticed that you said you ran the oil line in the top and out the bottom of the center mount cooler.

I believe that you can trap air in your cooler (as you noted yourself in your text), by routing in this fashion. Smart racing offers a note in their oiling products which validates. Their catalog specifically says to route oil in the bottom and out the top of such cooler.

I would be that you are losing cooling efficiency due to this routing.

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I run two in tandem.....one in the stock loaction and one in the nose.
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mikez post some pics of how you did this, I need to do this with the impending 3.6 transplant
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Used conversion metric fittings to -AN and spliced into the original Carrera cooler and a MOCAL cooler for the nose.

Try BAT INC they have a kit.
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I have a Carrera cooler with fan in the fender and a B&B cooler in the front like Bill's. I can run my car hard on 100 plus degree days and the temps stay very cool.
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Use in conjunction -
I had an SC with a 3.6 Varioram - it is a must.
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Thanks guys--I called Chuck at Elephant Racing and he recommended running both as you suggested.
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Thanks guys--I called Chuck at Elephant Racing and he recommended running both as you suggested.
I have Chuck's widemouth Carrera cooler. HUGE opening. I'm sure it helps. Like I said, my car runs cool in any conditions. Cooling is money well spent.
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From Chuck's site;

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I ran a single large Mocal for 3 years and was happy with it until I added AIM Data system this year. The Porsche temp gauge ran up to the second white mark, no higher. I was happy.... until Aim showed that the temp actually hit 250F during warm track days in the northeast. I added a 964 cooler in series, in the fender with fairly poor air flow. Top temps are now around 230F and I can live with that.
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Yeah, my 3.6 in the SC hit 240 on a regular basis.......and that was with a Carrera cooler with fan + a front mount (with not great flow through, ie rear exit only had 2 inches clearance)

The 930 runs 210, tops........but it has 3 oil coolers - one in each fender + big sucka up front

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