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bergporsche 10-06-2006 06:36 AM

My 3.0 RSR project
 
Building on a 1974 RS body-shell with 2 times Rally Monte Carlo experience 1982 & 1984
Just tell me what you think of it.
Nice to read on this forum how Americans being that kind of enthusiast about 3.0 RSR.
Hope to talk to people who also building a RSR, here in Europe its hard to find.

:)http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160144915.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160144935.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160144960.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160144972.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160144990.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160145002.jpg [img]

Tim Hancock 10-06-2006 06:40 AM

Stunning!

bergporsche 10-06-2006 06:40 AM

some more
 
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160145498.jpg
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Paul Thomas 10-06-2006 06:49 AM

What kind of slide valves are those?

What engine management are you going to use?

Looks great!

Paul

skinnerd 10-06-2006 07:19 AM

Really, really nice looking.
Not many of these 3.0 RSR are built by many.
You are doing an incredible job.
Please keep sending us more pics and you make additional progress.

There is a very nice replica 3.0 RSR on sale with eBay that I am drooling over right now.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-911-RSR-IMSA-GT-1974-Porsche-911-RSR-IMSA-GT-Race-Car-Race-Ready_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ10156QQihZ001QQit emZ110041004787QQrdZ1

Yours looks everybit as nice....

Bryan Beaumont 10-06-2006 07:46 AM

Wow, keep us all posted. REALLY looks great so far.

bergporsche 10-06-2006 08:23 AM

Thanks for the great compliments and interest.

The engine on the pics is the 1st one i build.
Here some specs;

Base 964 C2 1991.
P/c 102 mm 3.8 liter Cup
Cups 3.8 Cams with Porsche motor-sport rockers
Slide valves reproduction.
B & B headers
RS alternator drive (single belt, ALU lock up)
Choice in fuel / ignition managements; DTA fast or EFI

But i have to build me an other engine cause it is not legal to race in the hitsoric class here in Holland whit those specs.

So i am building a other engine now.

Base 930 3.3 engine case, changed to fit 100 mm
100 mm Mahle p/c
CR 11.0-1
964 balanced crank
930 oilpump
RSR 3.0 cams whit center-lube oiling
RSR lightened flywheel
Slide valves
RSR Pump,Mechanical injection, changed to 3.6 ltr
etc. etc.

At the outside of the engine not to see its illegall :)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160150843.jpg
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jevvy 10-06-2006 08:27 AM

WOW - lovley work, you seem to have my dream job!

bergporsche 10-06-2006 08:31 AM

the crankhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160152195.jpg

bergporsche 10-06-2006 09:04 AM

:)
Yep, it is a nice job.
I grew up whit Porsche, i think i was even made in it,lol
My father started his company in the mid 60's and he did the maintenance en repair of the only RSR, 934 and 935 here in Holland
In 1993 he died by a car accident.
So i took over the company of my mother in 1995.
In 1994 i sold his racing car to the USA, i think it is still there on the tracks drove by an Dutch meat broker.
Maybe some one knows the car
Got some nice old pics of that time.

the car we sold to the USA in 1994

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160153553.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160153598.jpg

me the little guy whit my father standing
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160153679.jpg

the 1974 RSR ex Tebernum car, this car we did the race prepare for in the mid 70's drived by Toon Suykerbuik
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160153865.jpg

the 935 ex Rolf Stommelen car race prepare drived by Henri van Oirschot

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160154077.jpg

some rally pics of my father in the mid 80's
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160154157.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160154191.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160154216.jpg

Enjoy!

jevvy 10-06-2006 09:45 AM

Thanks for the extra info and pictures, well done....you have just made me even more jealous.

Leland Pate 10-06-2006 10:28 AM

WOW!

How far are you from Koln?

kycarguy 935 10-06-2006 12:21 PM

Nice pictures!

Do you have more pictures of your dolly? I'm getting ready to build one soon and I like the way yours bolts on.

boba 10-06-2006 03:38 PM

WOW
 
This is a great project. The pictures are very good, keep them comming as you go forward.

quattrorunner 10-06-2006 04:03 PM

Glorious!

Bryan Beaumont 10-06-2006 04:13 PM

Thanks for sharing more info. Nice to see someone on the other side of the pond with the same love for PORSCHE, sharing their perspective.
Hope to see more as your project progresses. Good Luck.

Bryan Beaumont 10-06-2006 04:18 PM

BergPorsche,
When you get a chance maybe you could post pics of the other 5 in your collection. Can't get too much of a good thing :)
Thanks,

Bryan Beaumont

Doug E 10-06-2006 05:55 PM

Great project and old pics !

Thanks for sharing.

bergporsche 10-07-2006 12:51 AM

thnx to all of you.
Here some more pics fro the old Porsche factory in the 70's when we visited.
You can see that all is handcrafted instead of computerized building today.
Leland, we are about 250 km from Koln, in the midlle of Holland, 30 km from Arnhem.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160210328.jpg
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Dutchie 10-07-2006 12:58 AM

WOW nice project Wim ! If possible i would like to pay a visit sometimes to see the progress on the RSR and RS you are building.


Cheers,

bergporsche 10-07-2006 01:16 AM

thnx Ed, Great looking black "bastard" you've got there
You'r e welcome to visit.

the ex 935 Georg Loos / Rolf Stomellen car
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160212416.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160212436.jpg
The ex Tebernum RSR
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160212459.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160212478.jpg

bergporsche 10-07-2006 01:26 AM

My 2004 GT3 RS

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160212838.jpg
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bergporsche 10-07-2006 02:50 AM

My 1974 2.7 RS, build to 3.0 rs specs


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160218019.jpg
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GeorgeK 10-07-2006 03:02 AM

Would you know where the Ex-Stommenlen 935 is today? I have an idea,but I do not want to sway you.

hbkramer 10-07-2006 04:48 AM

Wim,
Looks as good (if not better) than Rijstafel and Heineken at Sama Sebo !!!
Thanks

bergporsche 10-07-2006 08:18 AM

thnx Kramer,

You remembered the most important dutch words, lol
here some more pics;

dist modification
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160237367.jpg

engine case
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160237434.jpg

compare c2/4 and whit SC conversion
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160237507.jpg

factory RSR mfi build to 3.6 specs
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160237663.jpg

factory centerlock rear
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160237768.jpg

Erik Mckenna 10-07-2006 04:24 PM

Such a great project!! I LOVE the your 996 GT3RS.. WHat a SUPER car what do you think of it!?
Next time I am in Holland ( Zwolle ) which may be next year..... I will swing in.

It's good to see such great Porsche projects! you have some GREAT machines

EM

Bryan Beaumont 10-07-2006 04:38 PM

Wim,
Do you know what mm your throttle bodies and stacks will be on the 3.6 mfi your building? A good friend of mine just had Henry Schmidt build a 3.2SS mfi with 41.5 mm throttle bodies and 52mm stacks. The motor makes power all the way up to 7700 rpm. 335 HP!!???!!! He put the motor in his Viper Green RS clone which weighs 2200#, SCARY FAST!!!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160267814.jpg

skinnerd 10-07-2006 11:10 PM

Do you have any more pics of your silver 74 RS close....it looks incredible too.

bergporsche 10-08-2006 10:44 AM

I'll measure the stacks tomorrow at work Bryan, don't know what size they're exactly right now.
More silver 3.0 rs pics comming up soon.

Mr9146 10-08-2006 08:29 PM

Wim,

How old are you?

I've been doing this most of my life as well; my dad's a Porsche mechanic with his own business. He's still alive, but our stories seem similar. It's very cool to see another guy come up through the ranks to take over pop's Porsche business.

Nice factory pictures, too. Very cool stuff.

bergporsche 10-09-2006 06:20 AM

Bryan, the valves are 42 mm/1.653 inch, stacks inlet 60 mm/ 2.365 inch.
I don't know what power and revs the engine will bring me at the dyno, I'll let you know when we got that far.
i am trying to read and learn as much as possible on this forum what other technicians are building and their know-how.
In Europe there are a lot of "Wise guys"not willing to share their knowledge about engine concepts, in the USA its 100 % different i experienced.
Its amazing what some people are building, great stuff.
Mr 9146 almost counting 40yrs now, nice too hear that there are more son-father relationships like me.
Here some more pics if the slide valves which i use, i don't know who produced them cause my father earned them before.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160403126.jpg


The left is the adapter to fit the sides on the c2/4, right one for the old type of cylinder heads
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160403204.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160403364.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160403394.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160403410.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160403539.jpg

bergporsche 10-09-2006 06:52 AM

Pics from Cylinder head compare, 935 and standard 911

935 valve guide is much shorter then standard and on the exhaust side there is canal for extra oil lubrication the exhaust valve (more cooling).
Also the valves are 1mm thinner then standard 8mm compare of 9mm standard size.
Valve stem seal on the 935 head was required to use.
Using these valves whit titanium valve concave washer, different collets reducing the weight whit more the 30 grams per valve.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1160405395.jpg

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smarjoram 10-09-2006 09:22 AM

Fantastic cars - they look beautifully put together too. Looking forward to more photos.

(really enjoyed the older shots too)

Kemo 10-09-2006 10:19 AM

subscribed...that Silver car of yours looks simply stunning.

vanwyk4257 10-09-2006 11:05 AM

Dat is een verrukkelijke auto, kan ik niet wachten de eindresultaat te zien! Het is geweldig om sommige Nederlandser liefhebbers te zien zelfs al ik op de andere zijde van de vijver ben. :D

bergporsche 10-09-2006 03:04 PM

Michael, grappig een Hollander in de USA, project zal nog wel ff duren denk ik.

vanwyk4257 10-09-2006 03:13 PM

Wim,
I live in an area here in the State of Michigan with a pretty large Dutch population. I definitely want to make it over to the Netherlands one of these days, hopefully when I can go for 2-3 weeks to really take in as much of Europe as possible. Keep up the great work on the project, it will turn out great!

Jeroen 10-09-2006 04:55 PM

Looking really, really, really, really nice!!!

('t is hier wel effe anders dan op het porscheforum.nl hè :D )

bergporsche 10-09-2006 05:10 PM

een verademing, jeroen, geen iwab (ik weet alles beter) figuren tegen gekomen tot nu toe.

groeten,

Wim


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