Need help valuing (another) project car

[Zeke]

And, the way parts are selling these days, I'd take off 20% from Larry's prices. Once upon a time...... but not now. POS. Leave it sit there. Another case in point: A memeber of this bbs bought a '70 coupe, all there, but a basket case. The seller was a shop moving out of state, so the buyer got a little anxious thinking this was a "fire sale." After I looked at it and told him what the body needed (way too rusty), he decided to sell. $1200. He paid 2200. Ouch.

I offered 1500, but I was too late, didn't know about the 1200 deal. Probably for the best that I didn't get it.

[john walker's workshop]

that rust area is the whole strength of a targa. i've see them lifted on a rack and the gap between door and rear quarter grew to 1 1/2 ". you're hoping the chassis may be rust free, but being that most of the car is unibody, what you're looking at IS the chassis.

[squidmarks]

For what its worth, here's a couple more pics I took of the car.

Mats were pulled up - no rust on the floor boards. Seats, dash and carpet were in v. good condition.


Engine compartment looked pretty clean

[Rich76_911s]

Just be done with this car. Unless you want to part it out. As a rusty 911 collector, Rusty 911's are a pain in the A$$! I have 2 of them and wish I had zero of them. Find a nice solid car to start with and have fun tinkering with it WHILE you drive it.

If there is a back door cheap way into the 911 world this is NOT it! Even if you bought this car and got it in running decent shape 3-4 years from now you would be kicking yourself, because instead of driving a targa with your wallet 25K lighter you could be driving a turbo.

You've had several very smart people tell you to leave this one alone, listen to them!

[calling911]

Originally posted by squidmarks
For what its worth, here's a couple more pics I took of the car.

Mats were pulled up - no rust on the floor boards. Seats, dash and carpet were in v. good condition.


Engine compartment looked pretty clean

Can't see much from there.. can you go back and take some shots of the following:

Front torsion bar mounts
rear torsion tube mounts in and outer
front axle mounts to floor pan area
the jack points.. not sure on this year but I think you can see whether the inner rocker is solid from there..

Also look at all the seams on the bottom.. all the way around and especially the tank support area...

based on that pic from the rear it might not be in too bad of shape.. but you HAVE to look at above to know for sure. The rust area you showed above the rocker is an easy repair.. You have to cust that piece out to do the rocker anyway if that needs it.. I just did that one last week.. easy schmeesy.

[juanbenae]

i look forward to watching you restore this car. keep us posted.

[pjv911]

I would offer as much as $3k if I had the time to part it out. Once you have fully dismantled it and learned a few things you could take the profits and buy a solid one. I think you have at least $5k worth of parts there. Maybe more than $6k with the use of Ebay. However spending $5k on this as a whole would be a huge mistake. Take a look at my signature below. I do have a few experiences with purchasing these great cars. All of the above givin advise from others is in check. They are looking out for you. Not just beating the car up. Shop wisely. You made the right decision joining this forum. Dont jump into the first deal you see.
BTW if that car does meet the reserve there is no way the buyer will be pleased. If the buyer picks it up in person there is no dought he will walk away with his cash still in pocket.
I would wait 3 weeks and go back to the guy offering $2200 and go from there. Let him relize his car is a parts car and nothing more.

Kurt Williams

[Bobboloo]

Here's a direction you might consider if you don't mind a project.

Make an offer in the $2000 to $2500 range for this car and leave your phone number. The pool of potential buyers for this car is very small, mainly dismantlers, and they are not about to pay anywhere near $5k.

If the guy accepts your offer then you can buy it for it's parts. Then find yourself a nice no rust SC or Carrera Targa roller. They are out there.

If you look in the parts classifieds here you'll find one. People buy these cars for there motor and tranny to use in their 914 racers and then they part the cars to offset the motor purchase. You can find these rollers in the $2500 range. Buddabing buddabang you now have a rust free project in your price range.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. This a car Scott (Ytnuklr) sold for $2500. Rust free 84' Targa roller. He bought it for the drivetrain and then sold it. Add your interior and drivtrain and you have a nice Targa for $5000 plus some extra parts to sell.

FS: 1984 Carrera Targa Roller, Best Offer

[squidmarks]

Bobby,

Thanks - good idea. I had planned to let the ebay auction run its course then go have another, more thorough look next weekend and give him an offer based on this. At this time of year, I think a seller of a car in this condition just want to get rid of it before the snow falls (New Hampshire) rather than have to try to protect it from the elements over the winter. He'd probably be open to a lower offer because of this.

Geoff