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rdane 01-17-2007 04:15 PM

Cast Fuchs..what size would you like to see made?
 
Pick your desired wheel size and application. Vote for as many sizes as you'd likely purchase.

The unlisted sizes are 17".

Moses is doing then...and they look like this is 7.5 and 9 x 17s which are sizes already being done for the SC/Carrera and big brakes.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1168958794.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1168958805.jpg

Shaun @ Tru6 01-17-2007 04:24 PM

you may want to put a link on the 930 forum to come over and vote.

Slider79SC 01-17-2007 05:53 PM

I want 9' and 10' for my SC..... I know, it will be a little more custom than most SC's.

Jeff Alton 01-17-2007 06:12 PM

As a mass produced wheel I think the 7.5/9.0 sizes planned are the best course. Easy fit equals happy customers. These are the sizes I run on the track and have no complaints.

Cheers

JV911SYDNEY 01-17-2007 06:15 PM

will 9's at the back fit a narrow body?

RallyJon 01-17-2007 06:23 PM

7.5 and 9s are fine, but need 50-55 offset and brake clearance for 993.

rdane 01-17-2007 06:51 PM

I'll buy the original 7.5 and 9 x 17s that Mosers will be offerening myself but they aren't the most tire you can stuff under an SC/Carrera, 8 and 10 is.

Slider you'll never get a set of 9 and 10s under an SC fender :) but it is a good thought. The 10 can be tight in the back but the 9 is really too big up front.

Even though you can't get the street tires that fill them out correctly any more a set of 8/9 15s look cool and be fun with sticky rubber!

9's won't go under a narrow body but an 8" will with some work.

Jeff might be because you run BBS which are 7.5 and 9 :) Fikse's are typically 7.5 or 8 and 9 or 9.5s depending on when you bought them and also work fine with zero fitment problems.

Jon sounds like Moses has already solved the brake clearance issues on the original 7.5/9s. He is using the Fikse on his car as a model. If so, there will be no clearance issues.

GrantG 01-17-2007 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by catca
As a mass produced wheel I think the 7.5/9.0 sizes planned are the best course. Easy fit equals happy customers. These are the sizes I run on the track and have no complaints.

Cheers

I agree:)

Jeff Alton 01-17-2007 07:32 PM

Actually I build my wheels to my own specs for offset and clearance and I faxed this info to Moses to use for brake clearance (brembo GTP) :)

Cheers

Moses 01-17-2007 09:57 PM

If the first sets go over well, wider wheels (10", 11") are a very real possibility.

Jack Olsen 01-17-2007 11:22 PM

Centers for 3-piece 18's?

RallyJon 01-18-2007 05:41 AM

Quote:

Jon sounds like Moses has already solved the brake clearance issues on the original 7.5/9s. He is using the Fikse on his car as a model. If so, there will be no clearance issues.
Who says early offset Fikses would clear brakes on a late offset car? On early offset cars, the caliper is substantially behind the hub--very little of it protrudes past the wheel mounting face. On late offset cars, much more of the caliper is outboard of the wheel mounting face.

Also, going from early offset to late will require moving the entire center more than an inch within the barrel. Not trivial either.

Moses 01-18-2007 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RallyJon
Who says early offset Fikses would clear brakes on a late offset car? On early offset cars, the caliper is substantially behind the hub--very little of it protrudes past the wheel mounting face. On late offset cars, much more of the caliper is outboard of the wheel mounting face.

Also, going from early offset to late will require moving the entire center more than an inch within the barrel. Not trivial either.

I have no idea if these will fit early cars. They are designed to fit SC/Carrera's without spacers or rolling fenders. Hopefully will fit over any brakes youe SC/Carrera has. Will they fit other applications? Not sure, but they should.

RallyJon 01-18-2007 06:19 AM

SC/Carreras ARE early cars. The offsets/brakes changed in '89 for ABS. Early cars have 10-25mm offsets, late cars have 50-65mm offsets.

ChrisBennet 01-18-2007 06:21 AM

In front, 7.5" is the "safe" width but I run/ran 8" Ruf and Fikse on my Carrera. I'd buy 8&9x17 if I was shopping for wheels.
-Chris

Slider79SC 01-18-2007 08:04 AM

rdane,

I have run 8's & 9.5's on my SC the way it is. I plan on building my car into an F-prepared PCA car so a little fender flaring (massaging) is permitted within the rules. That's how I plan on running 9's & 10's.

jaydubya 01-18-2007 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slider79SC
rdane,

I have run 8's & 9.5's on my SC the way it is. I plan on building my car into an F-prepared PCA car so a little fender flaring (massaging) is permitted within the rules. That's how I plan on running 9's & 10's.

To get 9s on the front you are going to have to remove the fenders :)

(or add flares or get turbo fenders)

With the right inboard offset, a 9" wheel on the front would stick out past the fender lip on an SC almost an inch.

Britain Smith 01-18-2007 10:19 AM

What about a 911R offset for us really early narrow cars?

-Britain

Slider79SC 01-18-2007 12:11 PM

jaydubya,

I have a buddy who is a body & paint guy and we are going to run a baseball bat under the fenders to stretch the metal and then hammer and dollie the correct shape back in to gain the 3/4 inch that I need. The other 1/4 inch that is needed was gained when I upgraded my brakes (993) and the hubs that I used moved the offset in a 1/4 inch.

I have run 245's on the front without rubbing already, and I am just trying to get a 255 on a 9 inch wheel.... http://www.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat6.gif

jaydubya 01-18-2007 12:27 PM

Sounds like a nice setup! Post up some photos when all the drama is over :D

Slider79SC 01-18-2007 01:32 PM

That's is the only thing that scares me is if there is going to be drama. Like maybe not being able to get the fenders to look correct.....

I guess we would never know if we don't take chances.

JV911SYDNEY 01-18-2007 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RallyJon
[B]SC/Carreras ARE early cars. The offsets/brakes changed in '89 for ABS. Early cars have 10-25mm offsets
is this the same for 74-77 narrow-body cars?

if i'm not mistaken these came with 7 x 15 wheels and 185 tyres.

i was looking at the bask of my car last night and i dont know if you could fit any bigger than 8" on the back

rdane 01-18-2007 04:00 PM

Something like this I suspect? You might get a 9', 245/40 or 35 x 17 in there. Even unflared a 235/45/17 fit easy enough on a 8" rim. We did the fronts and backs adding at least an inch on both ends so I know 8 and 10s will work. With the right combo a 9" wheel and tire might fit up front.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1161256672.jpg

8" hand dollied front flair
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1117640219.jpg

Jeff964 01-18-2007 05:21 PM

Will there be offsets made for 964?

Jeff Alton 01-18-2007 05:44 PM

I just looked at the pole results, and it seems the 8/10 combo is out in front. I hope you guys know the work involved to make that fit in the rear and that you *may* have some rubbing in the front.......

Cheers

chris57 01-18-2007 05:56 PM

I would like to see 17" rims in 9" and 11" widths for my turbo look

rdane 01-18-2007 06:27 PM

Done right, like the factory Fikse 8s, the 8x17s are an easy fit in front with either the 225/45/17 or 235/45/17s on an SC. I had a bit of rubbing on my unrolled stock SC with 235/45/17 none with the 225/45. The 10s on the other hand are a very tight fit and take soem work.

The pole was only to give Moses an idea of what the demand might be for other sizes.

I would think that the numbers might indicate there could be other options available after the first 7.5s and 9s become available.

Bryan Beaumont 01-18-2007 06:27 PM

Here is a couple shots of my SC flared '74 RS turbo 911:D. I am running 17x8 & 9.5's with 235/40 & 275/40-17 Toyo RA-1's. It took a bit of trial and error to get it to all work well without rubbing (shaved bolts, rolled fenders, aggressive alignment settings). When all was said and done, I feel it was worth the effort, but it is not what I would consider a simple bolt on. It can be done but is probably not the best setup for everyone-IMO. I agree with what Moses has chosen for the initial sizing-17 x 7.5 & 9 will work AWESOME on any RS, SC or Carrera flared car without ANY messing around to get it to work. Good Job, Moses. BTW, I want a set in RSR finish.
Bryan
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1169176993.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1169177032.jpg

rdane 01-18-2007 06:38 PM

Nice looking ride Bryan!

Mose's original poll has something like 150 votes for interest in the 7.5 x 9, mine included. I'll buy at least one set in that size but would also like to see some other sizes made. No question a 8x10 combo is not for everyone on a SC/Carrera size flare. PIA to fit up right.

You never know what people might buy without asking.

Jeff Alton 01-18-2007 07:21 PM

Don't get me wrong, I think the pole is a good idea. I have run 8's on my car in the past in the front and those fit fine. The guy who had them build new what he was doing, right Dane:) ( I miss those wheels)

But the 10 is another story that may not have a happy ending for everyone.

But then you see the car in the photo above and see how great the 275 looks when it fits perfectly and you start thinking it would be worth the effort!

Cheers

jim72911t 01-18-2007 09:44 PM

Another early (no flare) guy here.

If you do the 17x 7.5's I'm hoping the offset will be such that a 225/45 would fit under both front and rear. If Bryan was able to get a 235/40 on 8's under the front fenders of his SC, I'm thinking that 225/45's should work.

RANDY P 01-19-2007 12:29 AM

Wow Bryan that car is incredible..

rjp

Slider79SC 01-19-2007 02:49 PM

OK, I could go for 8's and 10's for the SC then. The extra inch in the front won't help that much.

jjwood 01-20-2007 08:23 AM

I'd like to see 8 & 10's x 17" for 964 applications (both with & w/o flares). The next backdate trend... see Porsche Doc's 964 backdate project.

JV911SYDNEY 01-21-2007 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jim72911t
Another early (no flare) guy here.

If you do the 17x 7.5's I'm hoping the offset will be such that a 225/45 would fit under both front and rear. If Bryan was able to get a 235/40 on 8's under the front fenders of his SC, I'm thinking that 225/45's should work.

+1

currently 205 on both ends


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