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wachuko 04-06-2007 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by disfin
Any updates?
No updates... work has been taking a lot of my time (outside of the normal work hours...).... plus it seems I managed to tear the meniscus in my right leg...

I should be able to continue the work after next week... that is until I schedule the surgery for the knee... :rolleyes: ^$@%^$$#

jhubs 04-06-2007 10:10 AM

wachuko,
I pm'ed you. Great thread....keep going!

Jerry

alpina 07-20-2007 05:41 PM

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martin_gibson 07-20-2007 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by Jack Olsen And the rear license plate panel was a mod popular in the early seventies made by a company called Mitcom.
Jack,

Are these Mitcom licence plate panels still available?

Thx

Martin
911SC 3.6

alpina 07-24-2007 11:07 PM

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Jack Olsen 07-24-2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by martin_gibson (Post 3389824)
Are these Mitcom licence plate panels still available?

Yes. They made a few a couple of years back for me and another guy. I think they were $75 each. If you are interested in getting one, email me at olsenjack (at) gmail.com, and I'll see if I can't dig up the old information.

TerryBPP 07-25-2007 03:49 AM

Looks good so far. Don't let your fear of welding force you into fiberglassing those mirror holes. It would be a shame.

Are you planning doing full rear glass qtrs or just buying the flares?

wachuko 07-25-2007 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TerryBPP (Post 3394368)
Looks good so far. Don't let your fear of welding force you into fiberglassing those mirror holes. It would be a shame.

Are you planning doing full rear glass qtrs or just buying the flares?

I promise to try the welding first for the holes... just a bit afraid since I never done welding on a door... so you can understand being a bit afraid. I need to find a piece of similar material and test my skills before I tackle the door.

All I have seen so far are the full FG qtr panels. So that is what I was going to install.

Between the knee surgery (which I can say today that I now feel great!!), taking the family on a 5 week vacation (well... 3 week vacation and 2 weeks working remotely), now a business trip to Munich, Germany... the project is just sitting pretty in the garage :mad: ...

The idea of just going RS instead and save some time is starting to cross my mind... I better order the qtr panels to avoid going back...

I hope to do something this week before heading out to Germany... I hope... :(

kcpaz 08-12-2007 10:56 AM

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wachuko 09-26-2007 09:13 AM

Well... with the knee all better now and vacation over... even if work is high... I will start working on the car again.

Will remove all the rear parts tonight. Rear qtr panels and bumper ordered. I went with GT Racing again... I just like how responsive Hank is. I hope to have better luck with the fitment of those. The front really took some work. But since I have no prior experience I am not sure if it was normal effort or not... anyway... back to working the car!!

oregonmon 09-26-2007 09:40 AM

Just read your whole thread and can't wait to see more progress. Keep up the great work!!!

wachuko 09-26-2007 03:22 PM

removed all the rear parts after I got from work today. Rear qtr panels and bumper ordered. I went with GT Racing again... I just like how responsive Hank is. I hope to have better luck with the fitment of those. The front really took some work. But since I have no prior experience I am not sure if it was normal effort or not... anyway... back to working the car!!

A few photos... not much... just removed the rear bumper... the next part is where the real commitment comes to play... once I cut that metal there is no way back....

A model I got while in the Porsche museum... positive I could have found that cheaper somewhere else...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1190848599.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1190848776.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1190848807.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1190848831.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1190848875.jpg

and I moved it to the lift in preparation for when the parts come in....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1190848924.jpg


That is all for today.... not much really but at least I am back working on it...

911 tweaks 09-26-2007 03:54 PM

hey Wachuko,

your ramps to prep the raise for your floor lift is awesome!!

what lift brand is that?
how high does it lift?
where can one buy that lift?
how much do they cost?
if you had to do it all over again, would you buy one again?

thanks again and keep the project rollin! Your doing a great job!!! Makes me think of doing the same... I'll see how much work yours takes first though...I dont know if I could get this motivated and nerve up to cut my fenders... I guess one has to keep thinking of the end result and what a result an RSR would be!! Boy how I would love to have an RSR replica!!

Bob

wachuko 09-26-2007 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 911 tweaks (Post 3500167)
hey Wachuko,

your ramps to prep the raise for your floor lift is awesome!!

what lift brand is that?
how high does it lift?
where can one buy that lift?
how much do they cost?
if you had to do it all over again, would you buy one again?

thanks again and keep the project rollin! Your doing a great job!!! Makes me think of doing the same... I'll see how much work yours takes first though...I dont know if I could get this motivated and nerve up to cut my fenders... I guess one has to keep thinking of the end result and what a result an RSR would be!! Boy how I would love to have an RSR replica!!

Bob

If you have the ceiling height go with a two-post asymmetric lift... my garage does not have the necessary height for one so I had to go with the next best option.

Mine is a Bendpak 6000 LBS PORTABLE MID RISE LIFT - MD-6XP

Nevermind the Portable in the description... once this puppy is in place you are not going to want to move it...

· Portable Motor Cart Serves As Tow Handle To Easily Move Lift From One Bay To Another
· Adjustable Arm Assemblies
· Safety Lock Bar With Multiple Lock Positions
· Fast And Efficient Operation
· Lifting Capacity: 6000 Lbs. / 2722Kg.
· Overall Width: 40" / 1016mm
· Overall Length: 81" / 2057mm
· Lifting Height: 48" - 53" / 1219mm - 1346mm
· Minimum Pad Height: 4-3/4" / 121mm
· 110/220 Volt Power Unit

JeremyD 09-26-2007 04:22 PM

Sweet - was this the SC that was for sale in Tampa? Looks familiar

wachuko 09-26-2007 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyD (Post 3500226)
Sweet - was this the SC that was for sale in Tampa? Looks familiar

Yes, same one. SmileWavy

Here is the thread in Rennlist of when I bought it: http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=327043

Paid 9k for it.

JeremyD 09-26-2007 05:58 PM

Nicely bought - and you are doing good work.

wachuko 09-26-2007 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyD (Post 3500376)
Nicely bought - and you are doing good work.


I have to be honest... I was looking for a project car to turn into the car in the first post... when I found this one, for a few days after I bought it I thought of leaving it alone... looked to good to mess up... wife and father-in-law kept telling me to leave it alone... I need to make sure I finish this project and do it well or I will be kicking myself (for messing up a nice car) for many many years...

SmileWavy

Zeke 09-26-2007 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wachuko (Post 3500407)
I have to be honest... I was looking for a project car to turn into the car in the first post... when I found this one, for a few days after I bought it I thought of leaving it alone... looked to good to mess up... wife and father-in-law kept telling me to leave it alone... I need to make sure I finish this project and do it well or I will be kicking myself (for messing up a nice car) for many many years...

SmileWavy

That's why I mainly do bolt-on stuff. No welding of the doors for me. 964 "aero" mirrors look as good as those do in my book. But, that's my book, not yours. You are doing a big job and it looks to be turning out very nicely.

I'll keep checking your progress. Meanwhile, keep up the good work.

911GT2 09-26-2007 11:20 PM

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wachuko 10-01-2007 11:19 AM

Woohooo!!! Parts from GT Racing arrived at Orlando... delivery to my house scheduled for this Wednesday, Oct 3rd

wachuko 10-03-2007 01:43 PM

Parts arrived today:

New fan, housing, alternator:

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/new_fan_housing.jpg

Rear qtr panels and bumper:

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/rear_qtr_panel_1.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/rear_qtr_panel_2.jpg

No brackets on the rear bumper... hummm, more fabrication required...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/rear_qtr_panel_3.jpg

wachuko 10-03-2007 03:13 PM

Mandatory duct-tape install photos :)

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/rear_qtr_panel_4.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/rear_qtr_panel_5.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/rear_qtr_panel_6.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/rear_qtr_panel_7.jpg

It will take some serious rubber to fill those wells...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/rear_qtr_panel_8.jpg

SmileWavy

Tom '74 911 10-03-2007 03:25 PM

You are a brave man! Kudos!

Tom

Matt_West 10-03-2007 07:30 PM

Dang you provide dangerous inspiration. Great courage.

village idiot 10-04-2007 12:22 AM

You barely have enough room for both those cars in there. Time to "renovate" the garage:D

JeremyD 10-04-2007 04:39 AM

Thats awesome!

wachuko 10-04-2007 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by village idiot (Post 3512747)
You barely have enough room for both those cars in there. Time to "renovate" the garage:D


I wish I could... That is one of my dreams, building a custom home with a decent 40'x60' workshop... :D maybe someday... For now this three-car garage will have to do... I just move them out when working on the car... and a friend is kind enough to let me store one of the cars in his garage when the space is needed for long periods of time...

When we got this house I had them add 2' to the garage to allow for the closet and working bench you see in the back. What I forgot to ask for was a higher ceiling
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...leys/splat.gif

That would have allowed me to put in a two-post lift... nothing I can do now...

PcarPhil 10-04-2007 05:04 AM

Man this is an interesting thread! Those rear flares make my 11" turbo flares look tiny...

Forgive me if you've already answered this but what are you planning on running for wheels/tires and what do you have planned for an engine?

Keep up the progress updates!

wachuko 10-04-2007 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt_West (Post 3512523)
Dang you provide dangerous inspiration. Great courage.

I am scare sh#@$%less on the amount of cutting that is required for the rear panels... time to search in the folder for those photos of others who have done it... I don't want to cut more than is needed and even will try to leave as much original metal as possible...

from the initial looks of the FG panels it looks like I have to remove the rear side glass and cut into the window frame :eek: I don't think I will do that.. I rather cut the FG to where it touches the lower part of the window side and glue it there...

I need to do my homework now before I make the first cut...

SmileWavy

wachuko 10-04-2007 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaefer (Post 3512938)
Man this is an interesting thread! Those rear flares make my 11" turbo flares look tiny...

Forgive me if you've already answered this but what are you planning on running for wheels/tires and what do you have planned for an engine?

Keep up the progress updates!

Search for wheels here:

RSR with vented flairs-What wheels are you using??

Looks like I will end up with something like these:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1171984015.jpg

Engine: not too many changes... only plan to put some PMO 46 carbs to give it a better look... when the time comes, a rebuild but not planning on making any changes from the stock components unless is for reliability reasons...

PcarPhil 10-04-2007 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachuko (Post 3512967)
Search for wheels here:

RSR with vented flairs-What wheels are you using??

Looks like I will end up with something like these:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1171984015.jpg

Engine: not too many changes... only plan to put some PMO 46 carbs to give it a better look... when the time comes, a rebuild but not planning on making any changes from the stock components unless is for reliability reasons...

You're probably already aware of this but please keep in mind:

-increased overall wheel/tire weight that is unsprung weight.
-increased overall tire diameter and it's affect on gearing.

I believe the car in the pic above has a 3.6 engine which of course helps overcome the issues mentioned above! Those big meats might be a bit much for a stock 3.0 and stock 915 trans.

Edit: Regardless...you've got a very cool project in the works...

wachuko 10-04-2007 06:48 AM

Just a few reference photos of the fender install from other folks here...

Please free to add more from your project or photos you have come across SmileWavy

From JohnnyB:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1191509129.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1191509164.jpg

From Win Van den Berg RSR (he has been a great source of information for my project, what a guy!!) :

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1191509314.jpg

From M325ix

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1191509622.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1191509645.jpg

Brother 10-04-2007 07:34 AM

What did you need the new fan and housing for?

wachuko 10-04-2007 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother (Post 3513186)
What did you need the new fan and housing for?

A few weeks back I started to hear like the fan was touching the housing... I thought it was the alternator bearings that had gone bad. I removed everything and took the alternator to a repair shop... bearings were fine. After looking again at the fan housing I noticed several cracks... rather than trying to fix those (read a few post here that welding the magnesium housing was going to be a pita) I decided to order a new one.

Porsche no longer makes the housing so I ended up buying a replacement. These come in Aluminum now...

BTW, I will be soooo happy when I remove all that CIS stuff and replace it with a beautiful set of PMO carburetors... but first I need to finish all the body work, and get the wheels/tire combo...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/alt_reb1.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/alt_reb2.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/alt_reb3.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/alt_reb4.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/alt_reb5.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/alt_reb6.jpg

You can see one of the cracks it in this photo, in the lower left side...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/alt_reb7.jpg

I had to do the new fan housing, new 11 Blade Alternator Fan (also in aluminum), and new 90amp alternator (because I needed the updated alternator to work with all the other parts, housing is for an 84 and requires this alternator)... I also ordered the nice looking strap from Rennline (via Pelican Parts) to go with the changes.

Now I only need to decide what color I will paint them (maybe best to powdercoat them since there are all new.... hummm...)

So... I have a fine working alternator if anyone is in need for one...

DW SD 10-04-2007 03:20 PM

When do we move past "Part 1 - The Discovery"??

I move for starting Part 2!

Careful with the oversized bodywork and flares and large wheels combining that with limited power to back it up. Don't want to be "all show and no go".

Cool project.

wachuko 10-05-2007 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DW SD (Post 3514014)
When do we move past "Part 1 - The Discovery"??

I move for starting Part 2!

Careful with the oversized bodywork and flares and large wheels combining that with limited power to back it up. Don't want to be "all show and no go".

Cool project.


Done! SmileWavy

RSR Conversion - Part 2 - The build

wachuko 10-08-2007 09:48 AM

Since I posted the alternator stuff on this one... all other body updates will be done in the second thread started...

Used Tractor Supply paint... very thick/strong paint...

Nothing seems to be straight forward... rear bolts on the new alternator are different... so now I have to go out and get the correct size nuts...

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc04143_medium.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc04144_medium.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc04145_medium.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc04146_medium.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc04147_medium.jpg

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/dsc04148_medium.jpg

That is it for this thread... I should start bolting the rear qtr panels tonight to then mark and start cutting the metal... :eek:

Determined 01-06-2016 06:57 PM

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wachuko 01-06-2016 07:01 PM

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Sorry to say... Car was finished, sold to my friend that helped me finish it...and he sold it a few months ago :mad:

I think that it went to Hawaii...


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