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Shaun @ Tru6 04-14-2007 10:00 AM

What do you see that I should do
 
Here is my 69 E 2.0 with 107K on it. I just pulled all the tin in prep for strip and paint and found that someone had made a nice home for the winter.

With the motor down this far, what seals, etc. should I replace? Is there anything you see that is out of order or a concern that I should check into now. New MFI belt is on the way from our host.

I'm very tempted to get one of Series900's clear shrouds, but think I should leave the stacks and lines alone for now. Anyone have one with pics?

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Shaun @ Tru6 04-14-2007 10:01 AM

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SP2 04-14-2007 10:39 AM

Shaun,
Lookin good. Most of the oil at the "front" is from the valve breather gasket. Your t-stat up there looks dry, but pull it out and replace that seal. Your oil pressure sender up there looks dry too. I am not sure if you can just by a crush washer for that. My SC has a smaller sender.

Your right side chain tensioner oil line looks like it is leaking at the rubber joint. Probably replace that and the other side. At the bottom of the right sided chain t oil line it is leaking at the plate connection. That is just a crush washer. That triangular plate (intermediate shaft cover?) looks like it is leaking. That is just a paper gasket that you can spray with copper gasket spray. I would remove the oil cooler and clean out the nest. The nest is sitting right on top of the oil cooler fins, so you want to hose that down and spray it clean with compressed air. There are 3 seals you should replace when you put the oil cooler back on. With the oil cooler off, when you are looking directly into the crankcase recess, there is a depression towards the bottom and to the left, and another one on the other side of the crankcase. John Walker told me that this can leak and he recommended cleaning it and filling the depressions with JB Weld, but it was too late for me to do, but you could do it.

Don't forget to look under the engine later at the oil return tubes for leaks. If you are going to remove all the tin and clean and repaint and remove the heat exchangers, you might consider removing the MFI and green shroud so you can get the black air deflectors our to repaint too. But if you are not removing the HE's, I wouldn't bother with the MFI, etc because you can't get the deflectors out without the HE's out.

But wow, overall your early car engine is pretty clean/leak free!

azasadny 04-14-2007 11:10 AM

Get rid of the mouse nest!! Engine looks good!!

Henry Schmidt 04-14-2007 11:12 AM

Wave the magic wand and poof.

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Henry Schmidt 04-14-2007 11:14 AM

MFI with amber shroud.

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shbop 04-14-2007 11:41 AM

Put it on a pallet and bring it out here. You'll have to leave the mouse on the Mainland. I'll give you two weeks of surfing lessons and the board of your choice. If you're single, I can sweeten the pot. Hurry up! The fast, lumpy stuff on the north shore is almost gone for the season.

K9Torro 04-14-2007 12:19 PM

Yo dude , crank that beast and take the squirrel for a ride hahaha

Seriously put it on a pallet and send it to Al Broadfoot in Jaxsonville he will do you up right and send it back.

Todd

http://www.autosportfl.com/ SmileWavy

randywebb 04-14-2007 12:23 PM

Amazing! Henry was able to rebuild the engine over the InterNet!

Wrecked944 04-14-2007 01:59 PM

Re: What do you see that I should do
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Here is my 69 E 2.0 with 107K on it....With the motor down this far, what ... should I replace?
IMHO, you need to replace the crank case, cylinders, cylinder heads, and intake system. I think a nice twin plug 3.6 would be just perrrrrrrrrfect for that car....

:p

Monza_dh 04-14-2007 02:14 PM

The acorns kind of scare me. Where was the car stored and for how long?

Outside for 3 yrs?

Or inside a cozy heated garage??

klaucke 04-14-2007 03:15 PM

You could isolate the MFI system from the engine oil circuit, using plugs and a good synthetic. I believe Henry does this on some of his motors.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-14-2007 06:18 PM

Thanks for all the replies.

James, thanks for all the good details. Looks like another Pelican order is needed. the nest came out in one piece, like it was solid, so the cooler is nice and clean. I have thought of pulling the exchangers to see if I can find a tick-tick-tick that isn't valves or the muffler...looking for a bad gasket on any of the flanges. I have to see if I can borrow an engine stand though. If not, it's going back in as is.

Got a lot done today, few pics below.


Henry, as usual, your engines are the best looking, and I'm sure best built out there. No magic wand for me, I'm selling all my good parts to fund this venture. BUT, I'll call in year and dicsuss a 3.0 with MFI. :) thanks for the pic of the amber shroud, need to check with Damon on this now.


Jon, you've hit upon one of my "life wish list" things: Learning to surf. Used to fly to SF bimonthly, stayed over weekends a lot, tried to teach myself to surf at Pacific and down in Santa Cruz. Just how sweet can you make that pot? :D


Todd, thanks for the Broadfoot link, nice work!


Janus, careful, I know where you live and you just happen to have a 3.6. I have tools, a Jeep and 3 hours of spare time tomorrow. :p


Monza, car has been in a tent for about a year now.


Jonathan, that was on my list. Henry tells me I'd have to send the pump out for his version of this fix. Not in the budget. Just ordered paint and sending dash and interior out to Jason Cullen for a make-over.

Progress today:

Jason will turn this pile of junk into a beautiful interior.
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Minor surface rust, but again, very glad I caught all of this now versus just doing my planned suspension refresh.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1176603287.jpg




Body is getting there. I may have the hood and decklid in Light Ivory next weekend. If I find an S bumper this week, we'll see what and doors look like in Aga Blue.
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ty901 04-15-2007 09:36 AM

bell crank bushings ??
 
Shaun;
looks *almost* as good as mine :D ...and nearly *exactly* the same mileage. (hold on a minute while i check the garage :rolleyes: )

2 things;

it's hard to tell from pic #5, but i would check the MFI bell crank bushings. if they're the original nylon (?) ...mine were... get a set in bronze from our host. the trick to installing the outer one is to get a "razor saw" (Exacto, etc.) and cut it in half like a main bearing insert. install 1) inner bushing 2) bell crank 3) outer bushing in halves. it makes no difference which one you cut. they're both the same. this saves the headache of moving the stack.

in pic #1 it appears that the upper threadings where the trans bolts to the case have been helicoiled. mine were as well. when i pulled mine apart, the helicoils failed leaving a nice big hole in the mag case. Christian ('A Quiet Boom' here) was making kits to replace helicoils with aluminum inserts. not sure of the status of the project. they may be "in production" (ie; available from our host) or available direct. the ones i got were in 'beta'. i thought i was screwed and a week later the engine was back in the car.

looks like a great project. please keep us posted.
cheers
jerry

Shaun @ Tru6 04-15-2007 03:20 PM

Hi Jerry,

Glad you responded, thanks. This car did spend most of its life in your area, maybe it's evil twin?

I'm adding the bushings to the list, thanks for that tip. I've not been out to the car today, spent most of it putting up track lights for my ex-gf, but will look for helicoils. You have a good eye. I just checked the hi-res pics and they aren't definitive either, hope it's just the lighting.

You are an early car expert. Any thoughts on this:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/341282-strange-pillar-chassis-paint-code-plate.html

This will be a big blast cabinet week prepping every gloss and semi-gloss black part on the car. Will be posting progress.

S

efhughes3 04-16-2007 06:24 PM

Yep, the oil cooler is quick and easy to pull, and there are 3 seals that aren't hard to get in or out. That should give you more access to the nest.

Tranny shaft seal, clutch fork bushings. Pilot bearing iin flywheel, engine gauge senders, fuel lines, etc. So much easier now. Engine sound pad too.

Tom F2 04-17-2007 11:27 AM

Shawn, I would take the sheet metal to Applied Plastics in Norwood for the 20% black polyester treatment. It exactly matches the new sheet metal pieces from Porsche, and it stands up to moderate hammer blows.

klaucke 04-18-2007 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Jon, you've hit upon one of my "life wish list" things: Learning to surf. Used to fly to SF bimonthly, stayed over weekends a lot, tried to teach myself to surf at Pacific and down in Santa Cruz.
North Shore, South Shore, Cape Cod or RI (last two being my favorites) we can get you out there into some waves, Shaun. Note my avatar, taken at Marconi Beach along the CC National Seashore. I'm still trying to devise some roof racks for my Targa so I can take it surfing.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-18-2007 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by klaucke
North Shore, South Shore, Cape Cod or RI (last two being my favorites) we can get you out there into some waves, Shaun. Note my avatar, taken at Marconi Beach along the CC National Seashore. I'm still trying to devise some roof racks for my Targa so I can take it surfing.
I've went to NH twice 2 years ago and had a great time. Didn't get up for more than a few seconds, but fried clams sure do taste great after a day in the waves!

Let me know when you go Jonathan, hope to get out a little this summer.

Got paint yesterday! Aga Blue and Light Ivory.

Thanks again everyone for the input. Putting together a list for our host.

ty901 04-18-2007 02:37 PM

VERY strange...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shaun 84 Targa
Hi Jerry,

Glad you responded, thanks. This car did spend most of its life in your area, maybe it's evil twin?

I'm adding the bushings to the list, thanks for that tip. I've not been out to the car today, spent most of it putting up track lights for my ex-gf, but will look for helicoils. You have a good eye. I just checked the hi-res pics and they aren't definitive either, hope it's just the lighting.

You are an early car expert. Any thoughts on this:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=341282

This will be a big blast cabinet week prepping every gloss and semi-gloss black part on the car. Will be posting progress.

S

Shaun;
not a clue on your ID plate. actually it looks bazarre... maybe the account number to someone's secret Swiss bank account ?
:D
have you tried the early 911S Registry site ?
p.s. please replace "expert" with "student". for as long as i've been playing around w/ these wonderful cars i learn something new almost every day.

this one came from the 2nd owner who put a whopping 11,000 on the clock in 21 years of stewardship.
cheers
jerry

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