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Shaun @ Tru6 05-01-2015 03:41 AM

Thanks Keith, I have a some left from parting out cars but would be nice to have correct stock available. With the bubble we're in, I have to believe that there's a secret society parts horde somewhere.

eimkeith 05-01-2015 05:15 AM

I think that's likely; little hordes here and there.


keith.

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Luccia at Pelican Parts 05-01-2015 08:14 AM

This is great! Would love to highlight this build on our social media outlets. When do you think the project will be finished?

eimkeith 05-01-2015 10:15 AM

that would be fantastic, and appreciated.

looking to complete before the end of the year.

Luccia at Pelican Parts 05-01-2015 02:24 PM

Great! I will keep an eye out for updates here.

eimkeith 05-02-2015 12:02 PM

Working on the trunk latch panel/oil cooler duct today.

The previous iteration of the build was to use a fiberglass 'backdate' hood: a long hood skin on short hood support structure, so as to work with the G chassis front latch panel.

Since the trunk compartment is now a significant detail area for build authenticity, the latch panel must change.

After cutting away the old stuff, jigging on the Celette allows for some straightening, leveling, and correcting of the front of the car

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...e4c15d18cb.jpg

^ In this photo you can see where I've removed the upper G Chassis reinforcements that run roughly horizontal from the strut towers to the front of the car, as these were not found on the long hood cars. (lots of spot weld drill work) You can also see the vacuum-assist delete panel I've cut-in on the bulkhead in front of the driver. Aside from the contours of the vacuum booster sheetmetal being a glaring distraction when trying to pay homage to the original car, the twin RSR MFI fuel pumps must be mounted here - a major visual component of the RSR trunk.

You can also see where I'm cutting in for battery boxes, which will be deleted with blockoff plates per the Mary Stuart RSR.

(In the photo below you can see where I need to finish the upper decking work above the engine rooms - my usual weekend work)

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...ba9c4a602e.jpg

That's enough for Saturday! ;)


keith.

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eimkeith 05-03-2015 01:22 PM

Here we go again! Zuffenhaus MS RSR project...
 
Back on the oil cooler ducting today.

This is what we're after (2.8RSR photo from Armando's site):

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...abda92b78c.jpg

The cooler duct is lower and wider than our first iteration for this car, and ours was offset to accommodate the battery in the stock location.

The Mary Stuart RSR used the smugglers box for the battery, and ran the oil lines through the trunk compartment as shown above in the 2.8. We need to reproduce that for our trunk also.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...16451a4dbe.jpg

^This is where I started this morning. You can see that we previously frenched the oil lines through the corner of the front of the trunk to clear the tight contours of the early RSR bumper. That has to be removed & repaired along with the existing duct to better reproduce the MS trunk.

So everything comes back out.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...a03c16002b.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...bbcbd7f771.jpg

I did some corner repair (harvested the corner from the donor car, cut it in, and welded it in place - it will need some rust amendment and final trimming just before the duct goes in) and took some measurements for width at rear, centerline, and height and width where the duct crosses the vertical plane created by the trunk sides and my jigging.

I made a quick trip upstairs to the office and sketched up my duct to get dimensions for making a template.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...c731c2d164.jpg

Now that I've worked my way to a clear plan for the duct, I think that's enough for Sunday. :)

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...ef18700642.jpg


keith.

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eimkeith 05-04-2015 07:09 AM

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...b5390298b2.jpg

Bent this thing up this morning. Going bigger to give us room to work with on cooler sizing/hose routing.


keith.

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eimkeith 05-04-2015 01:51 PM

Oil cooler duct wasn't particularly cooperative; got that thing cut in, positioned, and tacked this afternoon:

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...3452f0629d.jpg

Before anything on the front end is finished welded, the hood will be aligned and gapped to double check everything.

We're using a reproduction fiberglass hood with balsa strips, reminiscent of the old Porsche motorsport part. Since I'll be cutting holes in it, I'd be hesitant to use an original hood on this project, even if one were available. This reproduction is probably significantly thicker and heavier than the original, but it should maintain its shape better at speed, and is still a remarkable weight savings over a metal hood!
(I'll weigh it when it is removed.)

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...99e2a3ac2e.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...1d79837349.jpg

Hood adjustment first thing in the morning.



keith.

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jm993rs 05-05-2015 04:29 AM

This thread is one big dream !!

eimkeith 05-05-2015 06:41 AM

Here we go again! Zuffenhaus MS RSR project...
 
Thanks!

Setting some panel heights and gaps this morning before anything gets welded.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...52ea8d4809.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...abd52b65eb.jpg

It's a process with an aftermarket hood; were also using aftermarket fenders, and while the passenger side is pretty good, the drivers' side is a bit shape-challenged. :(

I'm working toward setting all of the panels before trimming the hood for correct gap.

I'll also be removing the front latch panel bumper seal plate and reattaching it to make it level. :/


keith.

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scootermcrad 05-05-2015 07:03 AM

Looking good!

What aftermarket hood is that (if you don't mind sharing)? Interested to see what cooler you use and how you set it up in that duct, as well.

I need to do all of these very same things on my '70... front pan, tank support, front latch panel, cooler duct, fenders, hood, everything! Some great inspiration on even just this page!

eimkeith 05-05-2015 11:16 AM

The hood is Getty (who we recommend if you have to have fiberglass.)

Just finished wrangling the drivers fender and door hinges to get the gaps within factory specification and the 911 contours back in shape where the door/cowl/hood and fender blend into each other.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...c9469e9b4a.jpg

Back to the front.


keith.

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eimkeith 05-05-2015 01:19 PM

Here we go again! Zuffenhaus MS RSR project...
 
Hood roughed in.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...ad51d3fc67.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...c03b53c792.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...a5d000ca03.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...a1a89b9b6a.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...e96fa66037.jpg


Back on oil duct tomorrow.


keith.

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eimkeith 05-06-2015 08:19 AM

Still gapping and setting panels this morning; chasing millimeters.

Took a break and made these to speed it up (I was getting too granular with the calipers):

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...180208e6c7.jpg

More later.


keith.

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eimkeith 05-06-2015 02:59 PM

Remember when I said the driver's side aftermarket fender was shape-challenged? It is set and gapped, needs some additional attention to properly follow the hood contour at the seal edge, but at least the horn grille and turn signal mount is correctly formed.

Unlike the passenger fender.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...117f180deb.jpg

Off day at the body part factory I guess? I'll be cutting the divider loose and resetting all that stuff tomorrow, along with cutting off the hood seal tab and leveling that.

I've got to get the fenders finalized before I can final trim the hood, have to finalize the hood before I make the front end stuff permanent. Then I can pull all this stuff of and get back to chassis fab.


keith.

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eimkeith 05-07-2015 01:45 PM

Quick update for today; worked on the horizontal mounting flanges of fenders today to get them lower in relation to the front bumper seal, then removed the seal flange and reattached it level to the frame jig and fenders.

Started upper oil cooler duct/cooler mounting recess (this deviates from the authentic RSR, but we prefer to pocket the coolers in a bit for bump protection)

Not much to see, but here's where I'm stopping for the evening:

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...42f5a5e57d.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...ecb45caee0.jpg

And here is how the hood seal fits after adjusting the seal mounting flange:

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...e47f2b0b99.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...f9f23a74c1.jpg




keith.

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Crown 05-08-2015 09:02 AM

Thanks for the updates Keith! I'm following this thread with great interest from the beginning and you seem to amaze me with almost every update.

eimkeith 05-08-2015 03:26 PM

Thanks! I appreciate the feedback.

Made progress on the oil cooler duct (oil cooler mount recess part) today; had to dust off the panel welder and give it some exercise:

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...dcb870524e.jpg

Then I called it a day and went to a local cruise-in. (There were about 5 euro cars in sea of muscle).

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...23b2450f03.jpg



keith.

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eimkeith 05-09-2015 10:16 AM

Making some progress on the duct this morning.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/05...fb0e4896e8.jpg


keith.

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