R&T on 951 vs. 911
 

I dont know if I can do this without getting into copywrite trouble or not, but I just found an old Road and Track mag that compairs a 911 to a 944 Turbo (951)and would like to make it available to you folks...

I dont want to lose the mag, but I do have a scanner. Any ideas on how I could "post" this so anyone interested could read it and not get me into trouble at the same time???



[This message has been edited by VIPRKLR (edited 03-12-2001).]

probably wont get into any trouble, just ignored.

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Robert Stoll
83 SC
83 944

If anyone likes, I will scan the mag article and email it (should have high speed connection)or maybe upload it to a website..

If you got ignored for that, that would be pretty LOW! Stupid too.
Just because a 944 isn't a 911 doesn't mean it's trash or should be ignored. All of us 944 owners would love a 911 any day, BUT we just don't have the money! If we did we would own a 911 just like most of you on here.

Viprklr, I'll take it.
penzporsche@aol.com

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Penz
1985.5 944
My 944 page

VIPRLKR
Is that the article from about ten years ago which had the two cars in the Alps, beautiful scenery and, at the end of the drive, snow on the roads? If so, that was a good read. I think everyone would appreciate it.

That is the one - it is a good read - esp. if you have driven or owned both cars...

Penz944

I think they meant "get in trouble" and "Ignored" in terms of copyright laws, not a slam on the 944.

Jeff C

Didnt mean to slam the 44, I own one. Just have posted a couple of 44 related topics lately. They don't seem to be as inspiring as say a V-8 conversion.. http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/wink.gif

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Robert Stoll
83 SC
83 944

Sorry about the interpretation. But I still see stuff like that happen where some 911 owners think they are god and look down apon the 944 and are disgusted by it.

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Penz
1985.5 944
My 944 page

some of those 944s are very, very capable cars. Nothing to sneeze at.

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'83 SC

Gentlemen, you have just witnessed the beginning of a 100 plus post. http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/wink.gif

(With a very heavy Turkish accent)
944s are very good cars....
For me to poop on.

Total joke, I'd take a turbo no problem.

Hey, the appearance of ViperKiller coincides with the disappearance of famous baiter Obin Robinson...coincidence?




[This message has been edited by Kurt B (edited 03-11-2001).]

hey http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/wink.gif i'm still here. been busy though.

i have that article on the 944 turbo vs 911, offhand. it's reprinted in a book i have.

obin (who'd take a 944 turbo over a 911 any day of the century http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/wink.gif ... except the 911 GT1 of course)

Please don't bring that 944 bull**** back here again. They have their own board at this site. It's bad enough that we have to argue the V8 conversion, but there is no board for it (yet).

For the record my mother in-law owns a stock mint '86 951. Great car to drive. Absolutely no similarities can be compared beween that car and a 911. The 911 is unique in every way.

VIPRKLR: i could scan in my copy, but for it to be legible it would be HUGE. it would take ages to download. the most you can do is find if someone has already transcribed it.

obin

I think the 944 is great! In fact, I went down to the dealer to test drive and buy a new one today. I was shocked to find that such a great car had been discontinued!
I've been on vacation in Siberia the past 15 years, but before I left, I was pretty certain that front-engined 4 cylinder cars were going to be the wave of the future at Porsche.
I mean, the 944 was so much better than the 911, how could they discontinue it? Oh well, I guess I'll have to buy a used one. Haven't priced any used ones yet, though. But, the '86 944 Turbo was within a couple dollars of the '86 Carrera as new cars in 1986, and a good used '86 Carrera seems to go for around $24,000 right now. Given how great the 944 is, I'm pretty sure I can get a good '86 Turbo for a little more than a Carrera, maybe around $26,000, right? The used car market must surely reflect the greatness of the 944 in its prices . . .

well, you've got a lot of Porsche history to catch up on http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/wink.gif.

i thought we went through this already? if you want to know some porsche history, there's a ton in the old posts around here. if you can read and write in the english language, then all the info is on this BBS.


obin

WOW!! Sarcasm has found a home!!

I had to get rid of my slightly tuned 944S before I moved over to here from the UK. Within a month of arriving here I had purchased an 83' SC for about the same money thinking it had 204bhp. I love 911's but my 944S would beat this 174bhp thing in every way. I have never tried a 951 but I can imagine how uncontrollable they must be, especially in the wet. Like someone else said, there is no comparison. The 951 is a luxury highway rocket, with a slippery back-end elsewhere, whilst the 911 is a noisy ill-mannered grunty pig of a sportscar that puts a big grin on the driver's face.

Dam it fellas - I did not post this as a freakin 944 vs 911 post. The article I mentioned talks about the virtues of BOTH cars and has some really neat input on the 911.

I was mistaken in thinking anyone would want a copy of this - for the same reason Road & Track wrote the article - real information. No idiotic bias, which seems to run this BBS lately.

HEY WAYNE - will you please remove this post too if I promise to never post anything here again???

you're always welcome to send it to me.. but i already have it. however... let me double check it because i may have a different article. what is the month and year of the issue with the test you have?

obin

I'd love to see it, as a current owner of '85 911 and previous owner of '89 951. Thanks in advance..

I think i am the only person that likes 944 styling over 911 styling......I mean a 951 like this 1989 Turbo S http://images.autotrader.com/619/800...13_240x160.jpg

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85.5 Porsche 944

Looks to me like a street 935. That's probably why you like it so well. http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/smile.gif

Sorry guys if I started anything. Didn't mean to! I guess I Should of kept my mouth shut.


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Penz
1985.5 944
My 944 page

These posts seem to go on and on in a circular fashion. Every now and then a newbie comes along defiantly supporting/harrasing a different model, someone objects etc etc etc.
Let me just clear the matter up for once and for all and then we can leave the topic alone:

911's thrash 944's all day, every day and in every way.

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'72 911 TE

Well that 951 up there can thrash you anyday......

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85.5 Porsche 944

My 944 is my daily driver, because I get more girlies waving to me in it over my 911. For the life of me, I still can't figure that out. Oh..Yeah,..ahh.. gas mileage has nothing to do with it.
Tim in Sac

ah geez.......come on, can't we all just get along? The 911 and 944 are great cars in their own rights, but just for the record, I'm looking into a 911 next.

[This message has been edited by hoff944 (edited 03-12-2001).]

just got my book out this morning and it was not a Road and Track article that compared the 911 and the 944 turbo. it ws an article from a britich magazine. i can scan it in if people are interested.

it makes for a damn good read.

obin

I'd take a copy. "over1g@hotmail.com"

We all have our opinions, this isn't about that, this post is about sharing this article.

I've driven my share of 911s, they deserve the respect they have, but I honestly like 944s better, personal choice.
Ahmet

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It's all the driver...

ok, the only problem is that the article may be over 1meg and i don't think i can e-mail it to hotmail addresses because they have a 1 meg cap.

i also might be able to put it on my FTP site. does everyone here have an FTP client / program that they can use to fetch it?

tell me what is easier, i can scan it in when i get home.

thanks!

obin

Obin - if you want to put it on your ftp site or email it to me, I can post it on my web server (T1, unlimited space).
Chris C.

Obin, Chris-


Let me know (ljonespwc@hotmail.com) when you figure out the logistics for transferring. My vote goes to the FTP or HTTP option on Chris' server. Another option is to scan the article and post it on PhotoPoint for all to read.


Sounds like a good read. I just purchased an '88 911 Club Sport, but I'm in the market for a pristine 944 Turbo. Thanks, Lance.

yeah Obin send it over here..... RaF3D@aol.com

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85.5 Porsche 944

ok, no problem guys. here's what i'll do:

i have an entire bookcase that is nothing but porsche books (and laserdiscs). i will get the 944 turbo vs 911 article and scan it in for you. i'll also scan in some other articles that you may find interesting. then tomorrow morning, i'll e-mail them out to you guys.

i'll also take a pic of my bookcase because i might have a book that someone wants me to reference information in.

cool?

obin

Hey! Just kidding, guys. You should all be able to recognise Porsche bait by now http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/wink.gif

V8's, 924s, 944's 356's, Hondas,Folgers whatever. If you work hard driving or fixing your machine then you've got all my respect!

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'72 911 TE

campbell.chris@gte.net and RaF3D@aol.com:

the attachments were huge.
check your e-mail guys... i have the articles scanned in.

enjoy!

obin

Obin... please send it to me..... Porsche_951_Fanatic@MyRealBox.com
(10 Meg limit)
if its more than also EG202@MyRealBox.com

also if anyone wants i will put it up on my webspace too...... also T1/unlimited