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scottd 01-08-2008 07:46 AM

Jack Points
 
Where are the proper jack points for a 85 911?

widgeon13 01-08-2008 08:15 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-924-944-968-technical-forum/377502-jack-stand-place-ment-lose-outside-mirror.html?highlight=jack+points

This should be helpful, found it with a quick search.

rick-l 01-08-2008 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3.2 CAB (Post 3690613)
I guess that I am dense, but is the car shown in this link even a Porsche? Because it appears to have an exhaust pipe running from one end to the other?? Am I looking at this correctly?

its a 944

3.2 CAB 01-08-2008 08:33 AM

I went back and noticed that.----dense. I didn't think that there would be a 944 or 924 showing up for jack locations on a 911 forum.....

widgeon13 01-08-2008 08:34 AM

Sorry, that's a 944 but since I've done one search I'll leave the next search up to someone else. I was trying to be a good shlt and find it for him. So much for my new years resolution for being a good shlt, back to my old cranky ways.

rick-l 01-08-2008 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 3690630)
Sorry, that's a 944 but since I've done one search I'll leave the next search up to someone else. I was trying to be a good shlt and find it for him. So much for my new years resolution for being a good shlt, back to my old cranky ways.

The only way to not make mistakes is never do anything. :)

I'll volunteer the way I lift the rear of my 88 which will bring predictions of doom and gloom. A floor jack with a hockey puck on the pad against the seam of the engine.

The front is hard to explain without a picture but a piece of wood between the torsion bar mounts. Someone will answer you.

gerrygug 01-08-2008 10:23 AM

How about this?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1199816552.jpg

burgermeister 01-08-2008 12:53 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1199825512.jpg
A jack under each end of the oak beam, moves front up nice and even. Leaves room for jackstands under the beam right under the jack pads on the car.

The rear, I also use the doom & gloom engine case seam to lift, and torsion bar covers for jackstands.

3.2 CAB 01-08-2008 04:56 PM

"D'ouh!" That looks pretty dang good. Pretty much the same here, except I don't raise it with the engine.

billybek 01-08-2008 05:04 PM

There are a ton of good threads with more of this information.
I get kind of lost when I start chasing these things around sometime.
I was looking at one thread where a car was lifted on a driveway that looked like pavers but may have been stamped concrete. The jackstands are all correct but using a floor jack on an uneven surface may "pull" the car as it is lifted as the wheels of the jack won't roll.
The owner of this car may have placed the jack on plywood or something to prevent this from happening.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?t=309649&highlight=lifting+car+with +floor+jack
Have a quick look through some of the old threads, the info will keep you honest while doing a lift...

defcon65 01-09-2008 02:55 PM

If you're going to jack at the corners (arrows C and D), be careful not to crush the standing seam. Pelican's jack pad that fits in the slot works good for side-to-side; the engine works good on the rear and the big-wood- timber across the pan works good for the front. Take your time, there's a lot of stuff that can be crushed if you're not careful.
I used to feel bad about providing specific warnings to mechanics ready to jack up my 911, but I got over it. What they DON'T know, in many cases, would fill oceans.

HarryD 01-09-2008 06:03 PM

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum. It is expected that you will post pictures. Also, to help us help you better, most of us include our car year and model in our signature line and our location near our user name. This can help us help you better in solving proplems.

To answser your question, there are many threads on this topic. IMHO, the best answer is on the Lifting Points thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg (Post 2263696)
You can lift at any of the points marked with an X

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1133297845.jpg

Place jack stands at the Xs w/ an appropriate pad or under the suspension arms or t-bar tubes

W/ 1 jack don't go to max height w/ a single lift, walk it up by alternating sides.

To lift the back, jack at or just inboard of the stock lift point, place the stand u under the t bar tube near the outer end. Do the same on the other side.

Repeat to the necessary height

Here is the car on 4 stands using a similar procedure
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1133298240.jpg


rick-l 01-09-2008 08:06 PM

Lifting one side of the car and putting it on a single jackstand and then trying to lift the other side sounds like inviting disaster.

I don't think jackstands handle side loads very well.

billybek 01-09-2008 08:26 PM

Quote:

Lifting one side of the car and putting it on a single jackstand and then trying to lift the other side sounds like inviting disaster.

I don't think jackstands handle side loads very well.
I agree. I think most guys only take their jackstands up one notch at a time.
Still I am not a big fan of lifting by the motor. There is just something about that gives me the willies for some reason.
Here is another watch your butt thread.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?t=295096&highlight=jacking+car+jack +stands
Go slow, stay safe! (in the garage)

HarryD 01-09-2008 11:18 PM

[QUOTE=billybek;3694729]...
Still I am not a big fan of lifting by the motor. There is just something about that gives me the willies for some reason.
.....QUOTE]

I am with you. Why would you want to lift you car using the single most expensive part as the lifting point?

rootmatt 01-10-2008 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryD (Post 3695016)
Why would you want to lift you car using the single most expensive part as the lifting point?

Well, yes but you are also lifting it by the heaviest component. Once the motor/gearbox combo are off the ground, the lightweight shell should easily follow.

I've just bought an engine stand and soon will find out for myself.

widgeon13 01-10-2008 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick-l (Post 3694684)
Lifting one side of the car and putting it on a single jackstand and then trying to lift the other side sounds like inviting disaster.

I don't think jackstands handle side loads very well.

It's the way I have always done it and never had a problem, just don't go up too much on one side at a time, lift the sides in stages. I never lift with the motor but have seen and heard of a lot of folks doing that and never known anyone to have a problem.


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