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Would this warrant your interestS

Firstly, I apologize if this should be in OT. I decided to land it here as MANY are looking at oil discussions (of all types) these days.

I recently rx'd an email from a friend in Brussels, who made note of the following contentions:

These companies import Middle Eastern oil :
> Shell........................... 205,742,000 barrels
> Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels
> Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
> Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
> Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels
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> Citgo.......from South America , from a Dictator who hates Americans
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> If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! (oil is now over $90 a barrel and heading to $100.00/)
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> Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
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> Sunoco................0 barrels
> Conoco................0 barrels
> Sinclair.................0 barrels
> BP / Phillips.........0 barrels
> Hess.....................0 barrels
> ARC0....................0 barrels
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> All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing.


Obviously the point of this rx'd email was to incite a boycott of mid-eastern sourced oil and provide (redirect) support (oil sources====i.e.,: GAS) elsewhere, in response. I have yet to verify the data, BTW.

I'm sure there are many within this board who can provide great commentary on this (data and all). Just curious what our Pelicanites think of this data (even what you would consider doing about it[[if anything]]). Opportunity to make a point? I don't know,......

BTW: Should the moderator feel this thread needs to be moved,..again: my apologies for my misguidance. Somehow I feel that 1 or 2 Pelicanites may provide "technically-based" data/observations that will meet forum requirements. We shall see?

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I NEVER go to Citgo b/c of Chavez. What a punk.

Regarding the Middle East ... I don't discrimate so much.

IMHO we should be getting our oil from within the US (ie Alaska and offshore). It is plentiful and we have the capabilities but the political bull runs too deep.

Thanks for sharing the numbers.
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I say use less no matter where it comes from so we can have a long term supply for our Porsches.
I look at it as a form of rationing myself.
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I never thought about discriminating against which country supplies oil. Probably because I have no idea where Japan gets its oil from ...

I was thinking about the US not using it's reserves just the other day. I figure they'll wait until the per barrel value goes up higher. Maybe $200 or $300, with my thoughts at about $300.

Why? Well, look at was happening in Dubai. Sooooo much money is floating around it just makes sense to sit on your own oil and buy up the competitors so that their supply runs out. Then you can reap the profits of the market and recreate your economy in the future.

I have a friend in the heating oil business and he seems to think that the per barrel price will drop again. However, I really don't think so since China is just eating it up and I don't think that will stop in the near future.

Now, back to topic:I can understand the refining process is a big difference but ...
Is there any real difference between where an oil is pulled from the ground?

Say Alaskan oil versus Mid-East?
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For what it's worth, your friend's data may be somewhat dated:
British Petroleum merged with Amoco (formerly Standard Oil of Indiana), in December 1998, becoming BPAmoco until 2000, when it was renamed BP.

I wholeheartedly agree with the suggestion to conserve what we have, although I seem to recall that our VP Dick would only consider see that to be a nice personal virtue and not a serious element of a viable energy policy.
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I wholeheartedly agree with the suggestion to conserve what we have, although I seem to recall that our VP Dick would only consider see that to be a nice personal virtue and not a serious element of a viable energy policy.
That's kind of why I take that stance. Pretty much, whatever The Dick says, I run as fast and as far to the other side as I can.
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Well,..I visited Snopes, as always,..to look for this email that was sent to me and sure enough.......................well, read for yourselves. This seems to be more current data (as someone here pointed out the dated data)..

Have a read (and I tend to agree with what's stated at Snopes..
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/saudigas.asp


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I NEVER go to Citgo b/c of Chavez. What a punk.

I too avoid Citgo b/c of Chavez. Tell me why every military base I have ever been to sells Citgo gasoline?
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Hess gets its crude from Chavez as well
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agreed OT! (niner11) I would refer to opening comments.........


mods,..please move it.

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