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What now?

So I've pretty much done all I wanted to my P-Car. Engine is running fine, all questionable parts have been replaced, cleaned up all the vacuum leaks.. only thing left to do is drive it I guess?

But this is my hobby. Unless I'm tinkering, I'm not happy. So what to do? The suspension and brakes seem fine for the type of driving I do. The radio sounds good. The body is straight and fine.

Perhaps it's time to pick-up another project?

Ideas anyone?



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Old 01-19-2008, 05:39 AM
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Drive the wheels off of it, then there will be more to do!!!!
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Old 01-19-2008, 05:43 AM
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Take it to the track. You will suddenly find you need to do more and more to improve handling, braking, performance etc. The question becomes how much do you want to spend to get that extra something, AND there is always something extra to get.
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Take it to the track. You will suddenly find you need to do more and more to improve handling, braking, performance etc. The question becomes how much do you want to spend to get that extra something, AND there is always something extra to get.
I think I would prefer to get another P-Car for track use. This one is pretty cherry. Plus I have "collector" plates on her which limits the kind of driving I can do with her.

Of course, the track will only serve to demonstrate just what a lousy driver I really am!
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Old 01-19-2008, 05:57 AM
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Ship it to me, and I'll ship you mine so you can 'tinker' on it. I won't mind driving yours, and you'll be happy tinkering. Whatcha' think? You can always find SOMETHING on your car to spend money on, no doubt. Don't you want to upgrade or rebuild something? Of course you do...that's why you're (we're all!) here.
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Of course, the track will only serve to demonstrate just what a lousy driver I really am!
Being a former resident of Vancouver and knowing some of the great roads there for cruising, I would think the track is perfect for learning the handling characteristics of the rear weight bias 911. Track is not just for getting your yaya's out but to make you a better driver for the road. The problem with NOT going to the track is you will want to explore the car while driving on the street and you will find yourself in trouble quickly. The last thing you want to do is have to lift in the corner and then not know what to expect.
Insurance coverage while on the track will likely not apply in the event of damage, so this is good incentive to drive within your ability and really listen to your instructor. You will not regret it. There are many things to be learned about high speed driving, despite what you think you already know. I learn something everytime out and it has been eight full seasons at some awesome tracks.
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For me it was take it to the track. These cars were meant to be driven and you've done some nice things to enhance it's capabilities. Get a clear bra to prevent chips and go have fun and learn.

I spent a winter putting a new interior in a rare Jaguar to go to car shows with. Was not my cup of tea, I quickly got bored at the shows and then what was the point of continuing to tinker?

Some folks love the project aspect of things and I appreciate their skills and patience. You could think of it as making yourself a project to become the best driver you can.
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Being a former resident of Vancouver and knowing some of the great roads there for cruising, I would think the track is perfect for learning the handling characteristics of the rear weight bias 911. Track is not just for getting your yaya's out but to make you a better driver for the road. The problem with NOT going to the track is you will want to explore the car while driving on the street and you will find yourself in trouble quickly. The last thing you want to do is have to lift in the corner and then not know what to expect.
Insurance coverage while on the track will likely not apply in the event of damage, so this is good incentive to drive within your ability and really listen to your instructor. You will not regret it. There are many things to be learned about high speed driving, despite what you think you already know. I learn something every time out and it has been eight full seasons at some awesome tracks.

True, the track does have it's attraction. However, I'm pretty new to Vancouver, I actually grew up in Montreal where driving is a competitive sport. Plus, I have to admit that I participated in many a time trials event with some degree of success. I do know my limits however, and they are mostly dictated by my pocketbook. Perhaps I'll start with some tame Auto-X events and see where that takes me.
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Ship it to me, and I'll ship you mine so you can 'tinker' on it.
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Add a 3rd brake light,
Front strut brace,
Dual relays for Hi/Low beam,
Wire the small bulbs in the Euro lamps for Daylight-running,
Alarm,
Fire extinguisher,
Third pedal,
Volt meter,
Momo wheel,
Custom shift knob,
10-disc changer,
Wired Radar Detector,
Short-shift kit with spring-load for 3-4 plane,
Limmited slip diff.

And soon another very long drive to Bryce Canyon, the North rim of the Grand Canyon and Monument Valley. On the way: Escalante hills and curves.

Driving over cones is not my bag. but DE's are good for picking up skills.






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True, the track does have it's attraction. However, I'm pretty new to Vancouver, I actually grew up in Montreal where driving is a competitive sport. Plus, I have to admit that I participated in many a time trials event with some degree of success. I do know my limits however, and they are mostly dictated by my pocketbook. Perhaps I'll start with some tame Auto-X events and see where that takes me.
How about a 3.4 or 3.5 upgrade? You can never have enough hp; or even a 3.6 conversion.
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And soon another very long drive to Bryce Canyon, the North rim of the Grand Canyon and Monument Valley. On the way: Escalante hills and curves. :D

Driving over cones is not my bag. :p but DE's are good for picking up skills.


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A few interior projects that don't break the bank.
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Thats why im glad i got a fixer upper porsche. In reality i tinker more than i drive
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....But this is my hobby. Unless I'm tinkering, I'm not happy. So what to do? The suspension and brakes seem fine for the type of driving I do...
When I purchased my car, I wanted to learn all about it "hands on", so I did a total suspension refresh/upgrade in addition to "upgrading" to 930 brakes. Mine was a 46K mile "garage queen" at the time, but even so, I couldn't believe the transformation the suspension upgrade/refresh made (and she's never been to the track either). The 930 brakes were simply "because I could", and while I was "in there", and without question overkill, but I love everything about my car now. Check the archives for details on suspension options. While I had everthing apart, I also powder coated everything, had all metal pieces re-cad plated, backdated the heat, removed the a/c (in the process of cleaning up the engine compartment), lightened her by 150+ lbs, etc. The list goes on and on.... If your suspension is still original/stock, you'll be amazed at what an upgrade/refresh will do and that's what I would suggest even though you may not think you "need" one. It was indeed a learning process, and a "labor of love", and I don't regret a single minute or $ spent. I've done so much that I can't recall it all of the top of my head, but you've still got LOTS of things to tackle on yours if you so desire. For the past few years, I've just been driving and enjoying the fruits of my labor .
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Congratulations!

Just enjoy it Brother, you've earned it!

+1 on the Track to really drive the baby the way it was meant to and refine your driving skills.

After the Track I bet you will have more projects for your baby.

Buy allot of Blue Masking tape to protect the finish and lenses.



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Buy another car and start over. That is what I did when I finished my first car.
I keep the first one to enjoy when I want to drive something and I work on the second one when I want to play in the garage.
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Why not black out those Fuchs. The rest of your 911 is red and black. Where does the gold/beige wheel color come from? Just a thought...

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