How much would you pay for an RSR clone?

[DW SD]

Originally Posted by Jack Olsen

It looks like Shawn's car got up to $55K before the auction ended?

Good data point! Shawn's car looked very nice, but nothing TOO extreme. With the 935 suspension and 3.6, it is a wolf in some sheep's clothing.

Doug

[Ferraripete]

yes, the car is sold and going to germany. so, the weakeness of our currency and the strength of the euro creates a good deal for the new owner.

sad to see the car leaving the country however as that is one over the top car!! again, the build just made we weak in the knees...it is a car i would have loved to have space and money permitting.

good luck to the new owner...enjoy!

pcb

[c019740]

It sounds to me that Porsche should bring this car back into production!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd buy one...

[3.2 CAB]

Nada, zip. I already have the exact one that I searched for, for MANY years. See some good things did come out of the mid 80's Miami hay days!

[rennch]

Matt...are you "Carquip" Matt?

[uptheorg]

Hi - I just bought an RSR Clone from a self builder who has built several race cars. I paid well north of $50k, but I am happy with what I got. I guess I fall into the checkbook type of buyer, but I am an enthusiast -- I wanted that car (2400lbs/300hp 3.6 varioram) because it was magical in the way it drove.

One thing I wanted to add to this thread is that the RSR is a coupe and the Cobra never had a roof! That is an enormous difference in a driver. I had a Cobra kit from Backdraft that was wicked fast (2080lbs/585hp) but was more of a motorcycle than a car. Building RSR kits has more viability because they are coupes, IMO.

[skinnerd]

Thinking about unloading this beastie in the coming months.
That will give you another data point.

[DW SD]

Guys,
I have a very recent data point. I sold mine for $62.5k locally here to someone in Orange County. He's owned many other Porsches, including a '73 S.

I've been interested to build another project and needed the garage space and the extra $ don't hurt.

My car was quite well finished with a hotrodded 3.6 (274 rwhp), two coolers, thermostatically controlled fans. 930 brakes, LSD, Jae Lee / Mirage International designed / setup suspension, many other mods and with outstanding paint.

Doug

[PcarPhil]

Doug,

Wow. I'm happy and sad for you at the same time! You've been a great help with my own car and many others on Pelican.

I'm sure whatever project you have in mind will turn out fantastic. Keep us updated!

[Zuluracerx]

Originally Posted by skinnerd

Thinking about unloading this beastie in the coming months.
That will give you another data point.

Looks nice! How much?

[DW SD]

Hey Scott,
thank you. I had been thinking about this for a while and decided the timing was right. This might be a good reference comparable for those of you who sell yours after me.

Part of me wants to build one these:


SuperLite Cars Made in the USA, Engineered to Win on the Street and Track by Race Car Replicas
2400 lbs, modern aluminum monocoque chassis with an LSv-8 and Porsche transaxle. I already picked up a G50/52 from a 964 turbo. but haven't ordered the car, yet.

Another part wants to build an old hot rod like a 50s Ford pickup with air bags a new LS motor. Just something different to take my kids to the car shows with.

Still another part wants to build another 911 to which I'd take to a whole other level

And a bit of me wants to just enjoy my family and two young kids with no distractions (7 months and 4.5 years).

I'm happy. I see the vacant spot in the garage and I don't really miss it. That's a good sign. Nature abhors a vacuum, though. Something will fill in.

Doug

[JeremyD]

Wow = Kermee - Doug - glad they are going for decent money -

[skinnerd]

Originally Posted by Zuluracerx

Looks nice! How much?

Struggling with that right now.
What's fair for me....and fair for the market???

Way too much in it....to ever get even again, but not trying for that.

More interested in getting the car to the right person.

Not sure I'd try to sell for less than $75k.
But that's my problem.

[rattlsnak]

I'm certainly not knocking those prices listed, but nice examples usually sell for in the @$35k range.. The ones going for much higher have many more expensive upgrades in the engine/transmissions.

[skinnerd]

310 hp/271 ft-lb torque RS V-ram engine with Wevo/Ledbetter Euro 915

15x9 and 15x11 Wiedmans RSR Fuchs with Michelin TB15's

TRE Motorsports and Kundensports RSR paint & body

on & on & on

I've got almost $35k just in the engine alone on this car....

This car might have just a few more of those expensive upgrades you're talking about.

[rattlsnak]

Doug, (dw sd) did you get pricing on the SLC?

And yes, other Doug, exactly!!

[skinnerd]

Another data point on ebay currently....

Porsche : 911 Hot Rod Porsche : 911 Hot Rod | eBay

Looks solid and well built.
No affiliation.

[Elombard]

Wow Mark this $$ makes me want to take your green meanie RSR!

That White car has been for sale for quite a while I think. he needs to sell the CCWs and get some custom 17" Fuchs to get that money imho. really makes the look on these.

[wesayso]

Originally Posted by DW SD

Hey Scott,
thank you. I had been thinking about this for a while and decided the timing was right. This might be a good reference comparable for those of you who sell yours after me.

Part of me wants to build one these:


SuperLite Cars Made in the USA, Engineered to Win on the Street and Track by Race Car Replicas
2400 lbs, modern aluminum monocoque chassis with an LSv-8 and Porsche transaxle. I already picked up a G50/52 from a 964 turbo. but haven't ordered the car, yet.

Another part wants to build an old hot rod like a 50s Ford pickup with air bags a new LS motor. Just something different to take my kids to the car shows with.

Still another part wants to build another 911 to which I'd take to a whole other level

And a bit of me wants to just enjoy my family and two young kids with no distractions (7 months and 4.5 years).

I'm happy. I see the vacant spot in the garage and I don't really miss it. That's a good sign. Nature abhors a vacuum, though. Something will fill in.

Doug

Not one of these? Race-Car-Replicas - 586-329-1573 - 917 Specs

[wayner]

To Jack’s and other people’s points about value of RSRs in general, I think that for any car of this type, the curve looks like this:

1. Car is new & extremely valuable because it is a limited production tool sold by the factory to win races.
2. Car wins races and become famous. Other professional racers want one and there are not enough to go around so price is high, and for the rest of us, we are in high school and all want one too.
3. Next year’s car comes along and this one is the old hack. Old race cars are not worth much except for spares. For a time club racers might keep them living a bit longer, but that’s the end of it.
4. Guys with no money buy them because they are the least expensive way to get a Porsche (or whatever brand)
5. Many years later (often in our 40s +) we start to remember the cars of our youth, and the early cars become appealing again. Supply and demand dictates price, but the ceiling is relatively low.
6. A few well-built versions like Jack’s get our attention. Demand increases among the “back in high school” crowd.
7. Then something interesting happens. The cars either fall off the radar and drop down to nothing, OR they become famous for being famous! I call this the Paris Hilton factor, but this is the catalyst to collectability.
8. First the brand aficionados hit. They are the ones who appreciate the car for what it is along with its heritage. They’ll pay what it takes to get the right one. What is right depends on where you are in the social and financial classes. There is room at the lower end and at the very high end.
9. Then, rich people who may not even really know what they are looking at know that they need one in their collection, and prices are suddenly in the millions, particularly for the real good ones with some provenance. “I’ve got the “ insert famous event here” car. Events might be historic racing events, or first off production line or at Paris car show events, but also may be the car from all the magazine articles back in the day.

If step 7 is the dividing line, then an RSR and replica may really make it or may not.

Kind of a famous historic figures (This is the spoon that Alexander The Great used to eat soup on his visit to…), famous performers (Sir Laurence Olivier & Charlton Hesston – I saw the movie and want to own that hat) and famous for being famous (Paris Hilton) kind of thing.

Then there are the David Cassidy’s of the car world, who had their moments but didn’t last, even though some would say that they did some fine work.

This ending has yet to be told. Will the RSR let alone the replica become yesterday’s news or will it and anything that looks like it become highly sought after in the long term?

Right now building my own RSRish car is exciting!