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acapella8 04-23-2008 03:52 PM

Thanks for the great detailed thread.

Wondering best vendor to source POR-20 aluminum satin paint . . . .

DRACO A5OG 04-23-2008 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 3903009)
How would you get current leakage with the switch being off? Sounds like a bad switch maybe? Interesting, but I'd suspect any issue like that would be indicative of other problems.

I contacted one LED manufacturer and they stated some older cars will leak current which will be picked up by the LEDs and they recommended a Load Equalizer to absorb the leak but it would act like a standard DOT light in efficiency. They could not give an opinion if the 3 or 5 Watt LEDs will make a difference. I just did not want to drop another $60+ to see if it is the case.

Please keep us posted on the 5 Watt LEDs when running during the day with lights off. I hope you are succesfull SmileWavy

Funny thing is that I have installed a LED third Brake Light and it does not glow. Apparently the DOT combo absorbs the leak and does not effect the Third Light LED.

BTW, I pasted aluminum foil where the reflective material has flaked off in the brake light and it worked great.

DRACO A5OG 05-19-2008 01:57 PM

Hey POP,

Any updates on the LED, specifically the low glow of the LEDs when the lights are off with car on?

SmileWavy

moneymanager 06-01-2008 01:23 PM

Just noticed, shouldn't the amber turn signal bulb above be an 1156, not two filament 1157?

nyne11 06-01-2008 03:41 PM

subd

moneymanager 06-01-2008 07:03 PM

Inspired by Jeff"s thread here, I got two of Super Brights 5 watt LED bulbs for my 74's taillights. I'm happy to report that, in addition to their many other advantages, they are (I'd estimate) about 20% brighter than the traditional two filament bulbs and, just as important, the directional coverage seems excellent. This is indeed an improvement in visibility. On the Super Bright site, the bulbs are the 1157 RLX-5's. The R means red, which is essential if you want to get the expected brightness.

DRACO A5OG 06-01-2008 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moneymanager (Post 3977666)
Inspired by Jeff"s thread here, I got two of Super Brights 5 watt LED bulbs for my 74's taillights. I'm happy to report that, in addition to their many other advantages, they are (I'd estimate) about 20% brighter than the traditional two filament bulbs and, just as important, the directional coverage seems excellent. This is indeed an improvement in visibility. On the Super Bright site, the bulbs are the 1157 RLX-5's. The R means red, which is essential if you want to get the expected brightness.

That's Great!

Now did you confirm if the rear lights remained off when you turned the lights off and car on?

My LEDs glowed when she was on and lights off.

Please advise,

MIK911 06-01-2008 07:24 PM

Awesome write up POP!! Be sure to post some pics on car.

Anyone replace 3rd brake light (high mounted inside rear window, on '86) with LED? What LED cluster would work best here?

thanks

moneymanager 06-01-2008 07:33 PM

I have no lights on with switch off.
There is a Pelican thread on doing an LED third brake light. BUt everyone (except me I guess) has missed the easy and sensible solution...the Hella aftermarket LED third brake unit available from daniel stern lighting. $50, very bright, looks like it belongs on the car, in contrast to some of the kluged together set ups on the thread. Take a look.

84_Carrera 06-01-2008 08:07 PM

$.02 from a guy who did the superbrightleds.com bulbs for his Taurus SHO years ago, including the resitors to compensate so you don't get the lamp out lights on the newer cars...

The lights (when I got them, about 2 years ago) looked great on the bench. However, in the light / twilight out on the road, I had many people tell me they couldn't see my brake lights. I tried the white bulbs behind the red, then the red bulbs behind the red... no real change.

Thought I'd share. Incidentally, yours do look great, hope they work out for you, but watch the rear-view, just in case...

moneymanager 06-01-2008 08:24 PM

Thanks, I'll keep my eyes open. My impression is that the LED units are improving all the time. In particular, many of the newer units are visible in a 200° arc, not typical just a couple of years ago when there were many complaints that if you got off axis the lights were invisible. Unless these new bulbs deteriorate rapidly or something else untoward happens, they are looking very good. They are brighter than stock and they show very good visibility well to the side of the car (ie off axis.)

DRACO A5OG 06-01-2008 09:07 PM

[QUOTE=moneymanager;3977726]I have no lights on with switch off.
QUOTE]

Great, looks like I am pulling the trigger on those 3-5 watt babys

johncmng 06-02-2008 10:10 AM

Subbing

JeremyD 06-02-2008 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 84_Carrera (Post 3977815)
$.02 from a guy who did the superbrightleds.com bulbs for his Taurus SHO years ago, including the resitors to compensate so you don't get the lamp out lights on the newer cars...

The lights (when I got them, about 2 years ago) looked great on the bench. However, in the light / twilight out on the road, I had many people tell me they couldn't see my brake lights. I tried the white bulbs behind the red, then the red bulbs behind the red... no real change.

Thought I'd share. Incidentally, yours do look great, hope they work out for you, but watch the rear-view, just in case...

Fred - not the case these days - My LED's are brighter than stock bulbs -

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1212432963.jpg

mgbruno 06-02-2008 11:28 AM

Subscribed! Great thread. Will tackle this in the future!

Mike

DRACO A5OG 06-09-2008 08:08 PM

Well Gentlemen,

It is an Afirmative!

The RED 5 Watt Luxeon LED Brake Lights (1157-RLX5) worked.

Much brighter than OEM or the other LEDs and the angle of view is perfect.

Apparently the 5 Watt LED draw a bit more current which absorbs any bleeding of OEM current. When the ignition is turned to the on position, no glow to report.

Thanks again POP and MoneyManager for confirming that lights don't bleed.

Again, Wow So Bright! It kind of burned my eyes. :eek:

moneymanager 06-10-2008 06:37 AM

Glad they worked out Draco...your experience is exactly like mine. These LEDs, plus my socket repairs and some other refinements have given me the best rear lighting I've had in years!

DRACO A5OG 06-10-2008 03:25 PM

Here are some pics from my cell:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...akeLights1.jpg
Brakes OFF
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...akeLights2.jpg
Brakes ON :D

Unlike the standard LEDs, it completely fills the brake light housing with light. ( see post 34, sorry JeremyD )

BTW, the Luxeons are brighter than the third LED light as well.

JeremyD 06-10-2008 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 3995329)
Here are some pics from my cell:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...akeLights1.jpg
Brakes OFF
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...akeLights2.jpg
Brakes ON :D

Unlike the standard LEDs, it completely fills the brake light housing with light. ( see post 34, sorry JeremyD )

BTW, the Luxeons are brighter than the third LED light as well.

No problem - mine was in direct florida sunlight - they look very similiar to yours under cover - filling out the entire brake light.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1213146486.jpg

DRACO A5OG 06-10-2008 06:07 PM

Strange, I wonder why your first pic has that distinct LED outline??? Are you using the Luxeon 5 Watt as well?


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