Is there a real advantage to an older car?

[davidbir]

I am considering a 69-73 911. I would upgrade to motor/transmission to a 3.0 or possibly 3.2 (No, I am not considering buggering up an original car!) Is there any advantage in a 69-73 chassis over my present 82 SC? Or is it just a matter of taste?

I have been tempted you see.....

[BeyGon]

I just got tired of working on older cars and bought a very nice 44k mile 89 targa, a little over two years ago. I have put 25 k miles on it, one set of rear tires, brakes, a new alternator. Oil changes. None of the things I had to fix surprised me for a car with 45-50k miles-when I did the repairs. I love it, drive it, no working on it.

[tcar]

Disadvantage: Rust. No galvanizing on a '69.

Advantage: Probably 400 lbs lighter. More tossable.

If you do the '69, PLEASE do not bastardize the car; they are more and more scarce.

[2.7RACER]

One distinct advantage of an older car is smog regulations.
Can't speak for Beautiful BC, but in many US states older cars are exempt from smog testing and some of the BS that goes with it.

[davidbir]

Originally Posted by tcar

Disadvantage: Rust. No galvanizing on a '69.

Advantage: Probably 400 lbs lighter. More tossable.

If you do the '69, PLEASE do not bastardize the car; they are more and more scarce.

The car I am considering is already bastardized

[Nine17]

My friend who knows about these things (Amelia Island and Rennsport concours winner) says NEVER get a car that isn't galvanized. The old ones ALL rust, even if you just wash it and put it in the garage. The only exception is for those people who can afford to flip or restore their early car every few years.

[vanwyk4257]

Why not have the best of both worlds, start with the later galvanized chassis, strip everything non-essential out of it and backdate it!

[Joe Bob]

Do it.....to the SC. Backdate the panels if you prefer the longhood look.

[kilodawg]

Washing a car and putting it straight in the garage is one of the worst things you can do if you are concerned about rust.......

[Superman]

There is little difference in the weight of the shells. The weight difference comes from the difference in parts bolted onto the shell. If the VIN plate is not important to you, then the ticket would be a late, galvanized shell with the parts of your choosing bolted on.

But I will say this: There is no substitute for low weight, and there is no more responsive throttle/fuel system than MFI. Because of this, a '73 RS is WAY more fun to drive than an SC or Carrera.

For me, Porsches are not about luxury. They are about performance and fun and responsiveness and reliability. The perfect car would be a galvanized shell with longhood look, flares, STIFF suspension, very low weight and a butt-kicking 2.7L (at least 2.7) MFI and 9.8:1 pistons, or thereabouts. More fun than showering with the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders.

[Superman]

PS: The throttle/fuel system with the absolute WORST throttle response is CIS. A CIS engine and an MFI engine are nearly opposite.

[ianc]

The throttle/fuel system with the absolute WORST throttle response is CIS

No, CIS is actually pretty good. Motronic is the worst...

ianc

[Hester]

Originally Posted by Superman

More fun than showering with the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders.

Oh I doubt that....

[aftermath]

How many of the cheerleaders?

[RWebb]

vanwyk4257 & Superman have given you good advice. Do some searches to verify what they said. I've posed before on tub wts.; wt. of the galvanizing treatment & etc.

The nice things about DME is that you can chip it be much better than CIS at any rpm range; it outperforms CIS at higher rpms already; and it can be made to work with higher EtOH levels and CIS will be in trouble there.

That said, if you get an SC, you can always drive it with the CIS motor and then covert to an aftermarket EFI later.

Be SURE that will be allowed by your state DEQ. If in doubt, backdate a Carrera not an SC.

[fbarrett]

David:

Drive an early car, then decide.

Frank

[RWebb]

the problem is that he'd have to then drive a modified later car to decide - they are not that common except in SoCal

[davidbir]

Thanks for all the info/advice guys.
I like Superman's version the best--MFI has a strong-possibly fatal- attraction for me. But just how many cheerleaders are we talking about?

[EarlyPorsche]

The funny thing is that once you go early its almost impossible to go back. Few can go back to newer stuff. I have both. As long as its just your fun canyon carving car and not something that you need to use daily its fine. Not that they aren't reliable for daily service, its just that they are not the best with features like heat and AC and defrost.

[Rot 911]

I had a '72E. Sold it and got an '86 coupe. Deleted the AC and other items. SSI's, cams, suspension. Would never go back.