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martin_gibson 07-02-2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferraripete (Post 4755169)
the calipers are waaaayyyyyy better than most upgrades sans the brembo big reds. the big reds may be marginally better. those bremteks are serious race quality parts!!! keep them!!!

No plans to sell the Bremteks unless of course someone want's to swap them for a Supertec Gen 2 twin plug distributor (2.7l) or an aluminium engine lid ;)

Martin

crashmy911 07-02-2009 03:42 PM

If you want to sell them pm me with a price. I have a race car which could use a upgrade. Car is only used on the track.

GaryR 07-02-2009 04:05 PM

Not sure who you were talking to but I will be selling my rears as soon as I get them disassembled.. overkill for a road car.

ClickClickBoom 07-03-2009 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 175K911 (Post 4096250)
Martin, if you send me an email or PM with your address, I can send you a copy of the original Bremtek literature. I'd considered these brakes for my previous 911 back when the brakes were still on the market and still have the original literature.

And if you decide to sell them, put me in line first please.

Ed

Here ya go:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-911-914-Bremtek-Race-Brake-Calipers-NEW_W0QQitemZ170348820304QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRace_C ar_Parts?hash=item27a994b750&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14& _trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A4|39%3A1|72%3A1171
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-911-914-Bremtek-Race-Brake-Calipers-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3a4Q7 c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a317Q7c293Q3a5Q7c294Q3a200QQ_trksidZ p3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem27a994b667QQitemZ170348 820071QQptZRaceQ5fCarQ5fParts
Not my sale just found.
eric

martin_gibson 07-03-2009 11:18 PM

This should be interesting :)

Martin

jpahemi 07-05-2009 07:38 AM

I remember when Automechanica (sp) was selling these, they seemed to be virtually an exact reproduction of the Willwood Superlite 2 calipers. Aside from the pistons, which featured thicker walls, it was very hard to tell them apart. After a little research, one of the techs @ Wilwood confirmed they where supplying Superlite 2 calipers to Bremtek according to there specs. Where Bremtek had exclusivity, was with the rears; due to the mounting dimensions, there wasn't any off the shelf application that would fit. The Wilwood Superlite 2 caliper has evolved substantially since; the "3" had stiffening ribs, double bolt bridge, and complete heat shield treatment in the pad box. Today it's offered in billet and forged versions. The price back then was @ $105 per caliper.

Regards,
jp

jpahemi 07-05-2009 07:52 AM

Here're a couple of pics of the Wilwood Forged Superlite on Carrera rotor:
Ps. the pad rattle was typical for the Wilwood/Bremtek caliper; that was eliminated on the next generation.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1246809068.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1246809119.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1246809138.jpg

justleft 12-30-2009 02:53 PM

How about billet mono-block Bremteks :)

This a picture of the 911SC rear on my 914.
I will get a picture of the 930 front next time I'm near the car.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1262217104.jpg

Rufcar 06-05-2012 11:36 AM

Bremtek
 
I know this is an older post but all the needed info is here for others. I have those Bremteks on my 73 RS 3.4 Hot Rod. They were installed ca. 1990 and I believe the current pads have been on over 10 yrs or even many more. The car was raced for the 1st 10 and driven hard the 2nd 10. I have never had any rattles I do not track it but I do drive it very hard. Today I found that Porterfield will make pads for me in 2 different compounds. I know they need a little warm up time for street but I love them. I have had zero problems in over 30K hard miles. If Id find a back up set id problem buy them.

jpahemi 06-05-2012 02:42 PM

Any pics of them on the rear? Do you know what size pistons they have?

Regards,
jp

Rufcar 06-05-2012 06:22 PM

Bremtek
 
Jp I have never had them off of the car, so I do not know the sizes. They appear exactly as the pics the upper previous posts.

thf944 12-18-2013 09:56 PM

Interesting old thread. I worked at Automechanika/Bremtek in the early 90's. By the time I started working there, the brakes were made in-house out of CNC machined billet aluminum. The fittings and lines I believe were from Wilwood, but everything else was made in house including the pistons. They looked like the latest picture above and were anodized black. I know the earlier ones were cast and I remember seeing some of the old cast ones laying around. We made a lot of flywheels that I think were also sold under the Bremtek name.

justleft 12-19-2013 12:02 PM

I was able to pick up a Bremtek flywheel a couple of yrs ago for cheap $$'s. :p

When I got the brakes I also purchased 2 set of pads. 1 of soft and 1 medium.
The pads are so thick I my 914 will turn to dust before the pads are gone.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1387486746.jpg

The pistons measure about 1" on my SC rears. Don't know if the 930 fronts are the same.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1387486825.jpg

6771911esses 06-05-2016 04:26 PM

Just found this old thread as I am researching Bremteks. I have an opportunity to buy a pair with pads with little use. The pads that come with the calipers are still very thick but my concern is to find replacement pads AND pads with the same compound for the rear (std. Carrera). The material they used back then is probably obsolete (asbestos?) and what is available now that fits these calipers and factory rear calipers?

Rufcar 11-19-2016 12:15 PM

My 73 was built by Andail in 1990 and they used them often. I have my 73 3.4 hot rod 12 yrs and 35k mi and have never changed a pad they still work perfect and throw very little dust!

Walt Fricke 11-20-2016 01:38 PM

These are great track rotors, especially if you run 15" rims. I've run them for years. Automechanika used to operate near Stuttgart West. What was George's last name?

He went through some trial and error. The first models did not have different piston sizes, so taper wear was a big issue, same as it was on the Wilwoods of that era. And he had troubles with the tubing connecting the two sides breaking or leaking, but by the time mine were made all that was resolved.

A couple of years ago I was having problems with mine. I buffed the pistons, and they look just fine.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479680804.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479680849.jpg

I have a bunch of the seals, but saw no need to replace the original ones.

What was causing my problems was wear where the pad rests on the caliper as it moves in and out - at the bottom, which is where braking pushes the pad into the caliper. The aluminum was getting gouged. A machinist made some inserts, which pretty much solved that. I only had it done in the front, but probably should do something like this for the rears at some point.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479680993.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479681111.jpg

I think Wilwoods nowadays come with a steel insert here - and maybe sell one for that purpose which could be adapted to the Bremtek.

It is very convenient that the pad matches a current Wilwood pad in terms of availability.

Those pictures of the cast Bremteks were the early models, as mine has the name inscribed on the machined pieces.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479681409.jpg

Bill Verburg 11-20-2016 02:18 PM

If you guys are looking for brake upgrades start w/ the rotors

calipers can give varying amounts of torque to the rotors but the stock A or S & M have adequate torque, they do suffer from heat issues when used at track events, that's where oe brake setups using '78 up 930 size rotors shine.


All modern calipers have mechanisms to fully control the pad
thru 993 Brembos used ss plates like what Walt added to his

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479683542.jpg


later monoblocks use a spring and locating pins
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479683678.jpg

here's a 993tt/Rs Big Red and a 996tt Big Red
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1479683724.jpg

As Walt mentions you do want differential sized pistons , smaller leading, or taper wear becomes an issue

All things considered there are much better choices than Bremteks

martin_gibson 01-03-2018 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martin_gibson (Post 4105798)
Some Bremtek info from one of the boxes that came with the car:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4636/...27d86282_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4687/...28cf2592_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4693/...dab34dd1_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4640/...459b51f7_b.jpg

According to the advert, they claimed 40% or 200% more effective that 930 calipers depending on type ;) and certainly weren't cheap for the late 80's - a real shame about the annoying rattles. :(

Martin

Just replaced those pesky photobucket links with Flickr.

Martin

martin_gibson 01-03-2018 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martin_gibson (Post 4752276)
It's a real shame there doesn't seem to be a fix for the caliper rattle coz once hot (on the track) the Bremtek calipers are superb, in fact I would go as far as saying I am a little underwhelmed with the replacement (albeit quiet) 930 calipers however I'll reserve judgement until I've sorted out the master cylinder.

Here's they are after I had them pulled :(

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4726/...6fc9eb55_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4728/...a2f05fa2_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4646/...e259321e_b.jpg

.......and impressive that they'll fit under a 15" Fuchs.

Martin

Re-linked

Martin

Rufcar 09-30-2019 11:45 AM

Bremtek back again!
 
Here is the site: https://bremtec.com.au/#find nearest


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