Failed NJ Inspection - Missing shift pattern on knob.

[911pcars]

Originally Posted by dimeified

Do you guys think that this would fit the shifter? $8 free shipping just to get me by. Just too bad it doesnt say "type R" or something silly like that, while i toss my real shift knob up and down in the air while they inspect the car...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-SHIFT-KNOB-TYPE-R-CIVIC-ACURA-LEGEND-VIGOR-VTEC-DC2_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c 65Q3a15Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQha shZitem320311265725QQitemZ320311265725

Unless you're going to use that knob permanently (looks fine btw), I wouldn't waste the $8. Looks like they use set screws and various nylon inserts to accommodate different size shifters, all of which are probably incorrect for our shifters. With a die grinder or equivalent or some al. shims, the knob can be made to fit. Not sure about its proportion relative to the factory knob. Aren't Japanese hands smaller?

DasBoot,
I assume you already had those hilarious shift knob pics in your computer already. Otherwise, I'd say you managed to blow some productive work time compiling them this morning. Or maybe you wasted it in the past and found a convenient way to rationalize that effort. Are they for sale? If so, PM sent. (just kidding)

Sherwood

[Formerly Steve Wilkinson]

I should think you can just scrawl it on a piece of ordinary masking tape. Can they possibly mandate the quality, type face or reproduction method? Here in New York, the inspector--local Dodge dealer tech--just rolls his eyes and hands me the sticker, saying, "I'll just say the car didn't have carburetors, no cats, headers and all that stuff when it left MY shop..."

And for your front plate, a couple of strips of Velcro should hold it on.

[DasBoot]

Originally Posted by tcar

They aren't the ones that wrote the law requiring a visible shift pattern...

Are they?

Kill the messenger. That's my motto. If the inspectors get enough grief from the public, perhaps they'll start "waiving" or looking the other way when it comes to shift knobs. An absurd law and a waste of time.

[DasBoot]

Originally Posted by 911pcars

DasBoot,
I assume you already had those hilarious shift knob pics in your computer already. Otherwise, I'd say you managed to blow some productive work time compiling them this morning. Or maybe you wasted it in the past and found a convenient way to rationalize that effort. Are they for sale? If so, PM sent. (just kidding)

Sherwood

Nah...just type in "cool/weird/wild" shift knob in Google images and you'll see hundreds.

[Porsche_monkey]

915 Shift Instructions:

1st - Should be up and to the left

2nd - Down and to the right, but pause when you are doing this while driving

3rd - The loose spot straight ahead that isn't fifth

4th - Down and rightish, but not reverse, let the clutch out slowly if you are downshift ing ot make sure it's not in second, especially if you paused on the downshift (see 2nd gear)

5th - Way up and to the right, pretty far away from the driver, passenger help is appreciated if you have a sore back.

Reverse - over to the right and down, but not straight over to the right, go down a bit first then over, then pull back. If it won't go into gear you are too close to fifth, or you need to double clutch. Or both.


Does that fit on a shift knob?

[DasBoot]

LOL. True, true.

Originally Posted by Porsche_monkey

915 Shift Instructions:

1st - Should be up and to the left

2nd - Down and to the right, but pause when you are doing this while driving

3rd - The loose spot straight ahead that isn't fifth

4th - Down and rightish, but not reverse, let the clutch out slowly if you are downshift ing ot make sure it's not in second, especially if you paused on the downshift (see 2nd gear)

5th - Way up and to the right, pretty far away from the driver, passenger help is appreciated if you have a sore back.

Reverse - over to the right and down, but not straight over to the right, go down a bit first then over, then pull back. If it won't go into gear you are too close to fifth, or you need to double clutch. Or both.


Does that fit on a shift knob?

[Rusty Heap]

I like the pen and paper post it note idea, but don't all porsche go in this order from top to bottom?

P - park
R
N
3
2
1

[tcar]

Originally Posted by Rusty Heap

I like the pen and paper post it note idea, but don't all porsche go in this order from top to bottom?

P - park
R
N
3
2
1

That's only for automatic. This is manual.

All automatics have that pattern by law, not just Porsche.

[group911@aol.co]

How come you guys didn't make all this commotion when the cars were new?
It's just a law. The guy happened to be doing his job.
Hopefully he was as thorough on the other safety items.

[Phat Euro Cab]

I was refused registration during a pre reg. inspection in CT and had to be reinspected in a older american musclecar (with auto) because the aftermarket floor mounted shifter didn't say PRND21. I went and bought sticky paper with #'s and letters. I then returned with nicely done pattern on the drivers side of the shifter. They said that looks GREAT! Now sir can you please turn on the windshield washer? Thats another story.

[dvkk]

Originally Posted by tcar

Does it have to be on the shifter? Many cars had the pattern on the dash by the shifter (VW Beetle).

That's only for 68 and later Beetles. 67 and earlier ones have no shift pattern anywhere.
What the heck would those nazis do to an early Beetle's owner?

[HarryD]

Ah schucks, just use my shift knob



I am sure it will help them boyz out.

[YTNUKLR]

I have a black plastic (no clear top) 915 shift knob . Very nice.. $30 shipped.

[gshase]

$100 the inspector would not know the proper shift pattern. I go to a place where they let me drive it for my inspection. Go to a print shop and get a sticker made and only tape it on, should be reusable for 10 years.

[motorcop]

Does not surprise me from those idiots at NJ Inspection stations. I once went with my wifes mini van and they wanted to fail me for "obstructed windshield view" for a 3 inch chunk of snow/ice in the lower left cowl area.....below the area of where the inspection sticker would be located, only obviousely on the inside. I said to the inspector, "you're kidding me, right?" He looked at me with a straight face and said "no" the vehicle failed. I reminded him that it was January, north east, 20 degrees outside, and the best part........NOTHING ELSE FAILED!! CAR WAS FINE!! At this point I refused to re-enter the car without speaking to his supervisor. The keys are in my pocket, engine off, and I'm refusing to move the car....which is now holding up the line of cars behind me. A small crowd of other motorists has gathered and are on my side! Love it. Supervisor shows up to check out the commotion and looks at his inspector after I explain the situation and says the same thing I did....."you're kidding me, right?" The supervisor removes the errant piece of ice, throws it on the floor where it immediately starts to melt from the strong forced hot air, apologizes to me and orders the inspector to give me a passing sticker which he reluctantly does to the roar of cheers from the onlookers! He is then ordered to report to his office. Felt like I hit a home run in the bottom of the ninth, bases loaded, score tied. Can't make this stuff up....only in NJ.

[DasBoot]

I would have pushed/held his face in the ice/snow until it melted then said "There you go"...

P.S. - That's what you get for driving a mini-van.

[motorcop]

The wife drives the mini van. I have the 911 cabrio.

[widgeon13]

The guy inspeciting the car probably can't even drive a stick!

[rnln]

This is rediculous. Do you have a pistol? **bang** problem will be solved.

Originally Posted by dimeified

I failed nj inspection a little while ago, emissions, low tire tread, no front licence plate, and "Incorrect or missing shift pattern on shifter"

I took care of the emissions with a new cat, got new tires all around, the front plate i still need to figure out a way to mount temporarily, but does anyone know of a local store like pep boys or auto zone that would have a cheap $5 rubber knob with the correct pattern on it for a 911?
thanks

[widgeon13]

I'd do the paper nicely taped to the dash, if they give you any **** because it's not on the shifter tell them you can't see it there when you are shifting. The entire thing is just stupid. Some asshat demonstrating their need to demonstrate power over others.