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Location: Calgary, AB
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People probably say to get a ppi because they didn't and regret not doing do. lol
Learn from someone else's mistakes or misfortune? -kevin
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10-31-2008, 04:07 PM
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Exactly on the PPI...
We all know we should get one, but when you go to look at these cars you just loose all common sense and fall in love. To tell you the truth, I don't think anybody gets a PPI, we just all talk about it because we know we will be ridiculed if we say otherwise. Cheers, Craig |
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10-31-2008, 07:15 PM
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I got a PPI. Knowing what I know now, I would have caught about $3000 in obvious necessary repairs that the PPI missed, and I'm not including the tired tranny in that. Of course, the car was in NY and I was in MI ... and the shop owner probably laughed all the way to the bank with his check.
While I'd approach it differently the next time, I regret nothing.
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11-01-2008, 06:15 AM
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Formerly known as Syzygy
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What would you do differently now?
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11-01-2008, 07:49 AM
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I would be much more hesitant to buy a car sight unseen.
If I did buy remotely again, I'd: 1) ask on this BBS for a reputable shop (though this would not have saved me in this instance) 2) Knowing much more about 911's now, I would give very specific instructions and questions to the PPI shop (such as checking all of the head studs .. though I lucked out on that one) 3) I would request a written / faxed / emailed statement from the shop with responses to all of my questions 4) I'd require some close up pictures of certain parts of the car, especially from underneath the car. 5) without LOTS of shop and / or parts receipts, I'd assume the worst and base my offer on that 6) if I were new to 911's, Id read this BBS for 6 months before even thinking of buying a car 7) I'd ask on this BBS if I could pay someone here to check the car out as well. In case you're curious, the shop missed a completely rusted out front pan held together with "structural undercoating", a completely corroded, pitted, sticky-as-hell and loose steering rack, a tranny likely at the end of its life, a battery ground cable almost corroded into 2 pieces, mouse nests and chewed blank wires in a few spots, and the obligatory flattened out hard oil line to the front cooler. Also the statement "car has zero corrosion of any sort" was more than mildly misleading - it clearly has seen some winter duty, though outside of the front pan (which was a battery issue), all of the sheetmetal was sound. Then there was the engine-to-trans nut on the LH lower side that had a 1/4" gap to being tight. And of course the size of the general backlog of deferred maintenance ... I didn't know enough to notice anything besides the sticky steering when I showed up to pick up the car. Flying into town with a one way ticket, ones bargaining position is not good. And I do not believe the seller was out to rip me off - based on the few existing receipts, I think he just drove it, and when it stopped running, he had it towed to a shop. So, shame on me. I still regret nothing - but I paid a great car price for a so-so car in need of lots of little stuff. I added up the parts bills once, I stopped at $4K...
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DAMN, burgermeister ...sounds like me.
My experience started with a call from the son-in-law T-Wrench who said come drive this 911 we just traded in on.....I went over and took this 85 Targa for a spin...tranny was nothing like I had experienced before (just terrible feeling,..with mucho problems)..BUT,..I was overtook with the handling and the terrific feedback...next thing I know, I'm calling the local P-shop for a PPI on this local animal and the dude informs me to forget this Targa and turns me on to a local architect who's getting ready to sell his 89 SA Edition. She as maintained for over a decade by this Porsche mechanic (to include the top/bottom rebuild). Dumbass me, goes over,..drives her,.......writes the check and drive away. Now, I understand FAR more than then,..and wish I had of done my homework, so as to save the cost of a cracked dash, torn seat, and NOW,..a bit of rust bubbling under the driver side windshield.....probably could have gotten'her for $18K'sh,....... hindsight is perfect 20/20. burgermeister is soooo dead on,....you have to do your homework and KNOW what to be concerned about,......which is something this board does PERFECTLY! Best, Doyle
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The part about "6 months on this BBS" is dead on, bud!!
Doyle
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