Million-dollar supercars dont count when it comes to a sign that the American (and world) economy is down the tubes. What does count is seeing prices plummet on 'real life' new and used vehicles. There is no debate on that one.

The body kit parts (minus the ricer wing) on the 911 in question do 'modernize' it but as already mentioned, getting more accolades for the car doesnt translate to getting more bucks for the car.

other than the body kit sounds like all the usuall changes people do and still sell in the $10-12k range. will have to find someone with the same taste in body style if not stock.

good luck, fall in colorado is a bad time to sell a sports car. bad weather this winter, and that thing could sit around till spring.

Fuchs would help a sale in my humble opinion......

+1 on the Fuchs.
IMHO I also agree that all of the robocar accoutrements devalue the 911SC

Any converted car is lower value actually, especially a Porsche. It's equivalent to a kit car, pieced together with parts here and there. Too many potential problems that many mechanics and body shops would not want to bother with. It'd be like opening a can of worms. Buyers would have no idea how things were put together, quality of workmanship, shortcuts. Shortcuts happen all the time on conversions too. "Gee, this trim doesn't quite fit right, I think I'll just retrofit it and save some time and money!" No thanks.

Why do you think factory mods/upgrades get a premium vs. aftermarket?

The body kit parts (minus the ricer wing) on the 911 in question do 'modernize' it ...


It's not a "ricer wing", Anyone who can appreciate porsches would know its the same as the wing that is on the 93 3.8 RS Porsche. We all have our little changes we like to do to our cars. Removing the extremely heavy carrera tail to replace with fiberglas just helps lighten the load. I'm all about faster and the way to get there is to go lighter. I just still want it to track well at high speeds.

For many (most), that wing will actually detract from the value.

Body kit also, to a lesser degree. It's NEVER worth what you paid for it.

But, there are a few that will see it as an enhancement. If you can find that kid, it may well go for 15 plus. Craigslist?

That's (157k) not huge milage for an SC, if maintained they can do 300k.

The first 3 years of the Carrera also have the 915 tranny, so up to '86. The G50 is heavier.

Interior?

Definitely an entertaining read! That book, and so many threads here, have 100% convinced me to not spend any 'crazy' money on my 911. The money I spend is to keep it mechanically safe and sound and no more.

Sad that there are car owners who think they will get even 10% back from all the money that they pour into their 911s or whatever they have. Heck, sometimes it is zero percent!

I would think you could get about 11,500 if you held out. If the paint is good, keep the thing if you can. Paint work these days is thru the roof.

If its mechanically sound, find a way to fall back in love with your car. As others have mentioned, non-stock items on the car rarely increase the value.

the other issue is that 1987-88 can be found for under $20k

Yes we know the wing is from a 3.8 R....the problem is that the car is a stock high mileage 911 SC. I think if you look up rice in the dictionary you'll see pictures of Stock NA Subarus with Sti wings and body kits. So rice it is, German rice yes, but still rice.

A good friend of mine not so many years ago wanted to buy a 911 so I let him have a go with my liteweight SC (carbs, cams, t-bars...) He loved it but started searching for a bone stock 911 because that's what he always wanted. I told him he'd be modifying it so he'd better to look for something with mods already done. He said no no - he was going to keep it stock. Anyway he found his stock 911, and within months he's making mods and changing the car.

The point is that most of your guys who want a Porsche want a stock one. I was the same when I started if I'm honest. I know better now, and now I would actively seek out a car with mods. BUT, I would never drive a 911 with a really big wing especially of it didn't have the cojones to back it up. Likewise sideskirts, I've never liked them personally. I'd be looking at your car and calculating how much it would cost to strip the mods *off* your car, so that effectively takes one potential buyer out of your pool.

Don't get me wrong, to each his own and I'm old enough to not be judging people for their taste, mine is questionable on many levels. That's not the point at all so don't take offense. The point is that if your car appeared stock we wouldn't be having this debate and I'd be looking at your car for $15K and comparing it to other cars for sale. As it is now I'd pass unless it was *really* cheap.

Jasper very well said in my opinion. I don't care what others want to do to their cars but for m... big a__ wings on 180 hp cars are just costs associated with making the car closer to what I would want, and I personally believe many many many people feel similar.

Tough crowd...
Your car looks nice with all your modifications, but it is still a 79 sc with 160,000 miles. Even if it was bone stock it would still only be worth about $12,000-13000, thats where the market is for your car. These cars have a grey area when they get over 125,000-150,000 miles when it comes to price. Too many other examples with less than 100,000 can be found for about $17-20,000.

I bought a nice 86 with 98,000 for about $16,500 two years ago, but as my miles creep up to about 115,000 I am fully aware that my car is only worth about $15000 and that is in a good market. I am never selling her, so eventually it will be worth more than what I paid, but that is 15 years from now, so that point doesn't really count.

I think the best thing you can do is just slap a sign in the window and hope you get your price from some non-Porsche person. But in this economy, I wouldn't count on it.

Just keep it and rock and roll with it... I mean the car does look good, so just enjoy it.

Later,
Leo Tolstoy