single good looking single guy with 911 - no date!

why does it seem so difficult these days to get a date.

I dont consider myself a bad looking guy, I have a well-paying job, I drive a porsche 911, why's it so hard to meet women?

I guess i'm a little shy and it gets frustrating, but its in just my personality, cant help it.

anyway, any other guys out there who seem to be doing well except in the personal department??

I'd like to know.

My girlfriend asked me out (and far before I had a 911), so I can't help...

I guess I WAS in your situation though, being the mostly shy type.

Cam

Being single and driving a 911 have NOTHING to do with one another, and if it does matter than either you or she has a mix up on priorities.
Sorry

Shawn

as ive said..

its not about WHAT you sport, rather HOW you sport it.. it dont matter if you got a 911 or a nice job and all that shet. its about your GAME, your HUSTLE..

"it dont matter if the guy has a fake rolex on, its how he wears it that makes it what it is"


SHAUN

Originally posted by cabman:
why does it seem so difficult these days to get a date?

!SNIP!

I guess i'm a little shy and it gets frustrating, but its in just my personality, cant help it.

You asked and answered your own question. I'll bet you're the kind of guy who, when a beautiful woman makes eye contact with you and smiles, turns around to see who she's looking at behind you, rather than smiling back and heading over.

Or it could be the oil and dirt under your nails. Wash your hands better, or try picking up chicks at Pep Boys!

Emanuel

Never tell anyone that you have a 911. Let them find out by accident then act all surprised that they like it.
In honesty, most women couldn't care less about cars. Mine comes for rides every now and then, but would always prefer to take the Boremoblile 'because it feels safer'.
Strange: just because the tail slides around a bit now and then doesn't make it unsafe...does it?
Some of the younger girls I work with are always asking for a spin. I politely decline, partly because I would feel like an idiot poser, but mostly because I just know they wouldn't get it. You have to be a car freak to like old 911's and carry it off.

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'72 911 TE

Where can I get me one of them fake Rolex's? They sound like they have good pulling potential.

I dont try and use my car to meet women. That would be lame. I was just trying to desctribe myself, my interests, and so forth.

I also agree that women dont really care too much about the car you drive. However, success tends to be a good asset for a mate (or am I wrong?). Maybe if I were a bum on the street, my chances would go up.

well, I cant remember the last time I made eye contact with a beautiful woman.
as far as smiling back and heading over, the guilt would kill me. This might sound strange, but if I saw a nice looking woman and I walked over and talked to her, I would feel guilty...like I was intruding on her privacy.
I have a defaetist attitude and that's not good!

It would help if you could post a picture of your car, and yourself!

My girlfriend hates my car. She thinks it competes with her. She's probably right! Once a wrench, always a wrench.

Cabman....go to autocross and concours...you'll meet chicks that dig cars.

Originally posted by 1973911s:
It would help if you could post a picture of your car, and yourself!

what'd you think? a little stiff??






[This message has been edited by cabman (edited 09-25-2001).]

Why don't you ask Wayne if he'll set up a lonely hearts forum?

I think a lot depends on where you live. For example, if you live in SoCal dating can be harder than getting a Formula 1 ride! Two of my good friends are college educated, very good jobs, one drives a 911SC, both are good looking (or so I'm told), yet they have a hard time getting dates here in SoCal.

When I was a single guy living here in SoCal (I was in my mid-20s), I'll admit that it was a challenge to date. Yet, as soon as I moved to Miami it was it was a whole different ball game. The women weren't as superficial as they were in LA and they were much friendlier (and much better looking, too, IMHO).

Rich
'86 Carrera

[This message has been edited by 911 (edited 09-25-2001).]

Most women don't care about cars or toys. A few do but not a lot.

They care about humor and how much they get treated. I was, and still am, a country boy brought up by my Grandparents. Fortunately, with humor (even with shyness) I never had problems. Most of them still would like to be around guys who treat the other gender like 'ladies.' Sort of old fashion.

Do not expect to attract with your P-car! This is almost a disrespect to them.

Just my opinion!

I evolved and realized no matter how much fun I had the night

I'm an extremely good looking guy and I can't get a date.

You say "Yes, with an attitude like that no wonder he can't get a date".

I have split up from my girlfriend and i don't really want to date yet but it's nice to be in the company of good looking women. What I did was started beginners level Ceroc dancing. It's great! The females slightly out number the guys so they love to have you coming along, and we all go out boozing afterwards. It's kind of like a big singles club and you are dancing, laughing and having a good time with some really nice girls without the scary bit of asking them out.

When we head out to a resturant all the girls say "I want to go with Bill in the Porsche", so I choose the best one and explain that it's only a two seater, but next time.

And if your intentions are to get a leg over, well, they are all single, and you are already half on a date with them already.

Don't mention the Porsche ever or they will think you are just a big w***er, and if they mention it just say "actually it's guite an old car so it's not really that fast".

And I'm not actually good looking I just try harder than most people.

It's a completely unfair generalization, but for the sake of argument, let's divide women into three groups.

1) Some are won over by the impression of a guy's status and money. A car can help in this category, but a 911, unless it's a 993 or 996, is a poor choice. Lease yourself a 2002 BMW 5 or 7 series (or something comparably expensive and dull) and dress like that "Mr. Big" guy does on Sex and the City. That's what this group wants. You meet these women by going out all the time, spending thousands of dollars on food and drinks, and ignoring the (shallow, opportunistic) women who flock to you.

2) A second subset of women are won over by a guy's attitude. This is the 'bad boy'-loving group. They have issues with their father, and they're using the men they date to work those issues out. A 911 can also help in this category, but not a lot. If you talk about the mechanical or historical virtues of your Porsche, you're sunk. More important is being born with a certain disregard for respectability in general, and an inborn sense of what's stylish. James Dean is the classic example of this, at least in terms of guys with Porsches. You don't imagine that he ever told a woman about the number of cylinders in his car, do you? Some musicians, sports figures, and Hollywood actors can pull this sort of thing off. Sometimes it's done very well by chronically-unemployed pretty boys. I don't get it, personally, but that's the way it is. You meet this group of women by going out all the time, doing less-expensive things like playing pool or playing guitar -- and paying attention to things only women think about (like that their hair is different), but then still generally ignoring the (troubled, high-maintenance) women who flock to you.

3) The biggest group, by far, aren't looking for either big-time status or bad-boy attitude. They want to nest. They want to get married and please their peers and their parents. For this group, a 911 is a big minus. They're looking for reliability and manageability. To meet this group of women, you let your female friends introduce you to all of their "she's really pretty, honest"-category girlfriends. When you meet them, you talk about how you 'want to have kids, eventually.' Then change the subject back to them, and try to get them to laugh once or twice. Then you don't do anything -- just wait for them to fall in love.

Now, I don't know you, Cabman. But you sound like you are going to have the best chances with the third group, since you think about things like whether or not you're getting any dates (and guys thinking about that stuff repels women from the first two groups, generally). Guys who get women from the first two groups seem to not want to spend time with women at all, seeing it as second-best to doing business deals or hanging out with their guy friends talking about sports.

I'd suggest talking to female friends of yours about the fact that 'it's really hard to meet anyone nice' and -- assuming your fingernails are clean and you're not obsessively talking about your job or your car all the time -- they'll probably take care of the rest. It always takes a lot of time. And it seems to work out so that the point where you're getting a lot of female attention comes precisely when you've ceased to care about it very much. Children follow shortly after that.

My deliberately-cynical two cents. My lovely wife, of course, defies all categorization. (And if any women read this post, I meant it only as a joke.)

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Thanks Bill,

Taking dancing classes seems like a good strategy to meet new people.
My only concern, however, is that I'll be stuck with a bunch of 300 lb lesbians with really pointy shoes! ouch!

but I suppose anything worth fighting for is worth fighting for.

Originally posted by Bill Douglas:
What I did was started beginners level Ceroc dancing. It's great! The females slightly out number the guys so they love to have you coming along, and we all go out boozing afterwards. It's kind of like a big singles club and you are dancing, laughing and having a good time with some really nice girls without the scary bit of asking them out.

Hahaha, Another bonus to Ceroc (which I went to for about 6 months as I was asked along by a girl I was interested in.... then really liked it), is that afterwards you know how to do a type of partner dancing (kinda more latin than ballroom) that can be TAUGHT to girls.

Fact: Vast majority of younger women like dancing. Being taught dancing which includes spins and dips is even more fun...

Well, my g/f found it cool when I taught her after we first met...

Cam

Cabman, Cam will back me up on this. Ceroc girls are nice. No big old ladies that just want to suffocate you between their hudge breasts, or young chicks that think you are too old. They tend to be types like marketing people, accountants, a few geeky banker types (joke Cam) a few school teachers, the usual computer crowd etc, so reasonably smart educated sort. And aged from mid twenties to late 30's. I'm aged 42 but it doesn't mean I have to date women that old, so this age grgoup suits me. And reasonably physical so they tend to have good bodies, not that I'm so shallow to only go after women with good bodies