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Zeke 03-01-2009 02:29 PM

Clock not working and I don't care if if gets fixed. New gauge?
 
What can I put there? Amp and volt meter? No special wires would be needed, right?

Anyone commission No. Hollywood Speedo or others to build such an animal?

Other suggestions?

Shadetree930 03-01-2009 02:32 PM

935 boost gauge!

RoninLB 03-01-2009 02:47 PM

I'm planning on using the clock hole for 3 fuel psi gauges. I run 10 psi to regulator. So 1 before filter, 1 after filter, and one after regulator to monitor 3.5 psi.

I already have volts, EGT, CHT covered.

there is a pelicanhead making custom VDO gauges. I don't have more info with me now.

HarryD 03-01-2009 02:47 PM

If it was me, I would put in a volt gauge, cylinder temp temp gauge, and maybe a shift light.

Joe Bob 03-01-2009 02:50 PM

I had a gauge made....alt and cht. Aircraft company cost me $85. Trying to remember who it was....CRS Syndrome.


Edit.....

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/in/westach.html

Zeke 03-01-2009 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryD (Post 4515956)
If it was me, I would put in a volt gauge, cylinder temp temp gauge, and maybe a shift light.

So, can I wire in my existing CHT? And, if so, where would I pick up the signal, under my seat at the DME?

I don't need a shift light. I graduated to being and old man driver. It's a lot cheaper that way. ;)

Mike, I'd like the new gauge to match the existing.

Joe Bob 03-01-2009 03:00 PM

CHT? There's a ring that seats under a spark plug. Thermocouple, then there's a power and a ground wire. Simple hook up.

Zeke 03-01-2009 04:00 PM

Right, I ran those on my karts. Didn't even need power. I guess I'll have to call No. Hollywood and see if they can integrate an Autopower gauge into the Porsche gauge face.

Any other ideas on what instruments that would be beneficial? I think the volt meter is a good one. I know Ron would agree.

JohnJL 03-01-2009 04:24 PM

The "Show me your race car dash" thread on that forum has some good ideas and examples.

Westach can make up just about anything you want. I have a 6-cylinder selectable CHT in my clockhole. Other useful gauges are voltage, fuel pressure, transmission temp (I tapped my filler plug to accept the sensor) and, of course, boost.

Some people have used a Ford circular vent in that spot for more ventilation.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1187302034.jpg

Joe Bob 03-01-2009 04:25 PM

Power and ground is for the gauge light, Milt.....

RoninLB 03-01-2009 04:35 PM

volt gauge is very important especially with an over voltage situation when regulator goes kaput. Idiot light won't come on.


I had a Westach dual CHT on my console pluged into cylinder 2 & 5

For the dash I want a VDO look so I found this pelicanhead dong custom gauges






http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/447820-replacement-oil-temperature-gauge-face-temperature-values.html


Quote:

Originally Posted by marks914 (Post 4439759)
I know what you mean on the fuel gauge, if it bothers you that much, we can make you a face for that too. F-E, 1/1, 1/2, 1/4, etc...

We do custom faces al the time, any color, anything you need, more on our website:

http://www.newvintageusa.com

Mark


RoninLB 03-01-2009 05:14 PM

Most gauges can be customized to blend into the VDO theme by someone. Some gauges aren't critically important and could easily be used on the console. Things like oil temps, even CHTs for track guys maybe should be placed in line of sight.


Westach was on my console
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1235959356.jpg



another Westach
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1235959472.jpg



I think this is mikez's ?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1235959593.jpg



my old console with volt meter over a dual CHT
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1235959690.jpg




my present console
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1235959788.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1235959808.jpg

barney911rs 03-01-2009 05:32 PM

There is a thread about this on the racing forum. One of the general consensus answers was a low oil pressure warning light. Very handy if you track the car. Just my $.02

RoninLB 03-01-2009 10:38 PM

hey Milt..
I have another bright idea.




awhile back there was a thread about gauge engine monitoring [including my bs] in which Grady Clay listed the newest tech with suggested sites. Point is that the monitor itself and I guess processor is becoming less expensive [ie: cheap] and small. For a few hundred you could have a 40-100hr trick install party.

Make it acceptable to the clock hole.


also member bell also did some trick install there.. don't remember details?



I like the idea of using a nice shunt for an amp gauge. How about a 4 gauge analog VDO in that hole?

Amp & volt @ 9 or 3 o'clock.. depending on how your eyes hit the volt needle. [Volt more important]

Fuel pump psi monitor at 12 or 6

And some kind of heat sensor on the alternator regulator. I think they start to cook at 200F ?

or anything else you could dream up

gumba 03-02-2009 07:02 AM

I was making custom gauges as a hobby for a while. The volt meter gauge is for sale if your interested. Made from a 2 5/8" Autometer gauge fit into an old gas gauge (same size as the clock). I also fit a 2 1/16" vdo voltmeter into the gas gauge and retained the oil level gauge.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1236009688.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1236009706.jpg

Zeke 03-02-2009 11:07 AM

PM sent.

bell 03-02-2009 06:32 PM

yep....here's that thread ron.......
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/157105-custom-cht-guage-install-lights.html?highlight=guage

i miss my 911..........

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1081228386.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1081228399.jpg

jimbauman 03-02-2009 06:37 PM

How about an aritificial horizon indicator from an old airplane? Great conversation piece!

laughac 03-02-2009 06:44 PM

I just had an Air Fuel Ratio/Boost meter installed. Actually, it's a PLX multi-function gauge that can display info from up to 32 sensors and can be reconfigured easily with a PC.

On the negative side, the first AFR sensor arrived broken so I am wondering about the future reliability and support quality from the manufacturer. I plan to add a turbo after a few weeks of practicing fuel tweaks on my CIS system. The last thing I want is to go lean under boost.

marks914 03-03-2009 09:35 AM

We haven't done one of these in a while, but they are agood wat to add more info to your dash

Mark

http://inlinethumb05.webshots.com/29...500x500Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/36...500x500Q85.jpg

Zeke 03-03-2009 10:31 AM

Very nice. The AL button (early car) really makes it look good. The dual gauges make for nice balance.

RoninLB 03-03-2009 11:50 AM

volt and CHT looks great.

are those gauges larger that for 2.25 ga ?

marks914 03-03-2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoninLB (Post 4520028)
volt and CHT looks great.

are those gauges larger that for 2.25 ga ?

We use a fuel/oil gauge as a core, which is the same size as the clock.

Mark

Vipergrün 03-03-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marks914 (Post 4520521)
We use a fuel/oil gauge as a core, which is the same size as the clock.

Mark

Cool! Pricing? Availability?

efhughes3 03-03-2009 06:03 PM

dB meter for your multiple subwoofers? :p

jclotz 03-03-2009 06:08 PM

I had this volt/AFR gage made by Bigmark Design and am happy

/Users/jeffclotz1/Pictures/iPhoto Library/Originals/2008/Roll 80/DSCN4573.JPG

jclotz 03-03-2009 06:28 PM

oops, here's the picture

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1236137316.jpg

bonkers 03-03-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbauman (Post 4518574)
How about an aritificial horizon indicator from an old airplane? Great conversation piece!

Gets my vote, in fact I want one now! :D


Quote:

Originally Posted by jclotz (Post 4520961)

That is really cool though... practical too.

FWIW I added boost and EGT guages to my Subaru (2.0L turbo) and while I watch the boost, I don't pay that much attention to EGT... maybe if I was modding the engine / exhaust it would be useful.

DSouth 03-04-2009 07:23 AM

jcoltz,

Where did you find the Volt/Mixture gauge?

marks914 03-04-2009 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSouth (Post 4521829)
jcoltz,

Where did you find the Volt/Mixture gauge?

The volt/cht and volt/a/f gauges are both ours. More crazy stuff in our porsche gauge showcase:

http://www.newvintageusa.com


Mark

Shadetree930 03-04-2009 08:43 AM

So a combo Boost & AFR guage in the clock hole is doable? That would be very useful. I would swap out my 934 boost gauge for that combination.

richemj 03-04-2009 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonkers (Post 4520989)
Gets my vote, in fact I want one now! .

Guess you can have both artificial horizon as well as a clock.... Ebay for $25! :D

http://i1.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/22/6d/ff8f_1.JPG

jclotz 03-04-2009 11:23 AM

DSouth, I used the gage along with the LC-1 wideband controller from Innovate. there was a little calibration fussing, but it works fine.

enzo1 03-04-2009 04:09 PM

how about this.....911 Driver’s Air Ventilation Kit
Replaces the factory heater/ventilation system under
the cowl and blows generous amounts of air to the
driver. The air comes out through the clock hole. A
bolt-in installation. 911 ‘69 to ‘89
041100............................................ ....................$231.45

ruf-porsche 03-04-2009 04:14 PM

Built in GPS?

bonkers 03-04-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richemj (Post 4522172)
Guess you can have both artificial horizon as well as a clock.... Ebay for $25! :D

http://i1.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/22/6d/ff8f_1.JPG

Hmmm, I wonder how much work it would be to fit that where the stock clock is now... The stock guages all pull out, right?

It's about the right size but described as square. However, I googled it and the casing is supposedly "high impact Polystyrene" so should be easily cuttable.

*dreams of flyer's helmets, goggles and cries of "Chocks away!", "Tally ho, chaps!"*

:D

gsmith660 03-05-2009 04:44 PM

Hey Milt here's what I did with my broke clock.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1236303865.jpg

Joe Bob 03-05-2009 04:48 PM

Geeee, gotta big enuff or more obvious turbo gauge?

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/style_e...fault/slap.gif

gsmith660 03-05-2009 04:56 PM

no its not as big as the stock boost gauge that replaces the clock but I'm trying.

Joe Bob 03-05-2009 05:11 PM

Gud fer you.....


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