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Plavan 01-06-2011 08:29 AM

Lol- I'm not judging. I'm the guy who went through Tech with Vise grips on the fuel return line- I had to increase fuel pressure on the fly :)

gsmith660 01-06-2011 12:21 PM

Where did you get the quarter panel? By the way very nice build if I hadn't already said that earlier!

Quote:

Originally Posted by wax105 (Post 5764210)
Kevin,

You're right the oil tank is huge, 5 gallons, I'll keep it about 3/4 full. The deal I got was to good to pass up, I would have got a 4 gallon if I was buying new... It will do just fine for the application!

Yes the lower oil line is the supply, I got a metric to -16 adapter fitting and used a 90deg hose end. I'll get you some pics if you like...

Good point about the G2X, I used industrial strenght velcro to attach it to the tunnel. This will allow me to access the memory card and status lights, I think its the best place for it. Those velcro strips are really very strong, its not moving unless I want it to.

As for the cell, I have a 12g, sportsmans are definitely the best bang for your buck. Drop in models are ridiculously expensive and for a track application they are of no value I think! Go back to post #66, you'll see the craddle at the bottom, its resting on the cage in the front and I welded some tab at the back. The craddle itself is welded in place, I still need to decide on the way I'll attach the alu. straps that will hold it in place.

I agree with Chad about the placement of your pumps, not ideal but I dont think its major. As you said, take care of it when you get in there.

Brett,

I understand my friend, this is what I dream about at night!!

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Thanks for nice words guys!


wax105 01-06-2011 01:13 PM

gsmith660

I bought those used with some other fg odds and ends... I'll take whatever I got and try to make it look half decent! Not gonna spend any money on something that doesnt make me faster right now.

30/30 rule
Looks good at 30 feet and 30miles/h

Kevin,

I take Andre's word for cash, PorscheHaus has been running P cars from before I was even a thought in my parents heads... From 934s to Sportcars, he is the Canadian direct link to PorscheMotorsport.
He says you cant imagine the amount of oil that circulates in that hose at high rpm, I wont quote him on his exact words (I cant remember the full explanation) but he was very specific and made a case for running that hose as high as possible. So I'll do as the Doctor recommends...

gsmith660 01-06-2011 01:24 PM

Thanks they are exactly what I would need to attach with duzs fastners. Anybody else know what brand these might be?

wax105 01-06-2011 01:43 PM

gsmith660

Sorry, I didnt realize you wanted the make... They are from HairyGlass in FL, the fit is superb and a quality product. They are branded on the under side, when I got them I contacted HG to see if I can buy the missing pieces for my kit and they said they dont produce these anymore. Apparently dont have molds for RSR anymore... But you could try GT-Racing - Getty - AIR - MAShaw - TRE , I havent used any of these products and cant vouch for either one.

gsmith660 01-06-2011 01:51 PM

Thanks yours are perfect too bad they don't make them anymore what wheels and tires are you using under these flares?

wax105 01-06-2011 03:56 PM

I'll be on 18"s, not sure what width yet... My objective won't be to fill up the flares, just getting the tires to work.

CBRacerX 01-06-2011 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wax105 (Post 5768226)
snip...

I take Andre's word for cash, PorscheHaus has been running P cars from before I was even a thought in my parents heads... From 934s to Sportcars, he is the Canadian direct link to PorscheMotorsport.
He says you cant imagine the amount of oil that circulates in that hose at high rpm, I wont quote him on his exact words (I cant remember the full explanation) but he was very specific and made a case for running that hose as high as possible. So I'll do as the Doctor recommends...

+1 on that. In my RSR replica I had excessive oil migration issues along the vent until I ran the vent hose up and along the roofline to the tank. After that, worked like a charm. Great build!

KTL 01-08-2011 06:29 PM

Thanks for the advice on the case vent line Carl and Chris. I'll certainly be mounting my case vent line up high!! Reason I wasn't certain is because of what i've seen and heard from others, simply about installation. But actual functional, corrected issues like Chris describes is proof enough for me!

Here's an installation that I saw on a 912/993 widebody racecar I saw at 2010 Porsche Parade here in IL

Forward-most blue hose is the case vent into the tank

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blue hose again is case vent line

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same blue hose near the back now

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case vent hose going into engine bay thru firewall

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wax105 01-30-2011 03:04 PM

"No good deed goes unpunished!"

I don't really like that saying but unfortunately it proves itself right to many times...

After stripping the car and removing the motor to prepare for welding the door bars and engine compartment bulkhead, I decided out of common courtesy for the powerplant to adjust the valves in this 70k 964 motor. Seemed like the right thing to do before putting it thru track labor. All valves adjustments were good except two that needed a little tunning and upon visual inspection I found this!


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Yup, broken head stud! I quickly swallowed the pill and started to take it apart to assess the extent of the damage. What started out as a leasurely afternoon ended up in a long nights work.


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I'm happy to report everything looks good, only found that one of the cam sprockets was missing 4 teeth. I have gasketless head to cylinders and o-ringed cylinder bases. There was no signs of any major oil leak so we should be fine...

I booked an appointment with the psychiatrist, I getting seriously hit with the "while your in there" syndrome!!:mad::mad:
I don't have much money to spare so apart from putting in new studs all around, I'll have the heads cleaned and a good 5 angle valve job done. Probably drop some cams in if I can find a good deal somewhere and yes valve springs... LOL

I will give this thing boost in the next couple years so none of this will go to waste. So time to start doing some research on my different option for cams and head studs, if anyone has any interesting testimonials please share your experiences.

KTL 01-31-2011 07:07 AM

DOH! That's a kick in the pants Carl. Good thing you found it now.

What's up with the cam sprockets? Where'd those 4 teeth decide to run off to?

Packy 01-31-2011 09:06 AM

Awesome project. Sorry to hear about the head stud.

wax105 01-31-2011 08:07 PM

Thanks Packy
Tell me about it Kevin....

You're right, much better now then later! Those cam teeth are not in the motor now, cant say for sure where they went or how long ago it happened.

The consensus seems to be 964 cams work nicely with a turbo setup so I'll hold of on the regrinds. I will ARP the rod bolts while it's apart and maybe do a little more work in the heads in preperation for boost. Should be back together by the end of the month...

carslutt 02-03-2011 07:47 PM

great project.

ninesixfour 05-20-2011 06:33 PM

Any updates?

wax105 05-25-2011 05:23 PM

Hey guys, still here but been really busy with little time to spare...

Don't have any pics for you but I will have some new things to show soon!
Motor is back together after a top end rebuild, as planned ARP head studs, 5 angle valve job with new guides, eibach HD valve springs everything is timed and ready to go.

I've been working on the engine bay & trunk bulkheads, already spent way to much time messing with that! After, weld the door bars, rear sway bar mounts and put it all back together again. Should be receiving my race prepped front struts and sway bars from Clint very soon. And I'll finaly see this girl sit on the floor!!!

More to follow :D:D:D:D

wax105 08-23-2011 09:48 AM

Well even if I don't have time to update the thread work is progressing! All parts are in and this girl should be on the ground as a roller by tomorrow...

I finally finished the engine and tranny bulkheads, was a little intricate with all the pipe passing thru. Only the center removable panel needs to be bent and fastened.

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Door bars and window net bracket are in.

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I test fitted the front shocks and did not like the tight fit with the coil-over, will limit camber adjustment. So with the help of my trusty angle grinder I went to town on the poor thing... Worked out great!

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Sorry for the low light, the evenings have been late in the garage...

Rear sway bar brackets are welded in and the bar is also on hand! I got a crazy deal on two sets of BBS E28 and I just had to take them. They were on a 996 Cup so I have to correct the offsets.

Tonight, assemble front hubs, install helper springs and torque everything up. Then I'll roll out of the garage for a good cleaning and paint a little. The objective is to be at the last big event of the season, Tremblant fall classic 23-25 septembre.
I wont have a minute to spare. It will not be finished but should be working, final paint and details will be addressed over the winter.

I'm expecting something nice next week, I'll let you guys know when it comes in but I probably will have to change the tittle of this thread... :D:D

Thanks for watching
Carl

KTL 08-23-2011 12:56 PM

Nice work as usual Carl! How about an additional pic of the engine panels. I think I might do the same- remove rear seat area and engine fire wall. I'd like to have all the room I need to run my bars to the rear crossmember, torsion bar housing and frame rails in engine bay

wax105 08-24-2011 02:06 PM

Hey Kevin, how you been?

The dredded bulkhead, not my best work yet and it needs some finishing touches... I'm actually not happy with it but it will have to do for now. I'm gonna go full tube frame at some point, only a matter of time!http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...amingdevil.gif

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Front is back together and steering is sorted out, just need to get the bearings and studs in the spindels tonight.

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Then I can roll her out in the sun she hasnt seen a couple years...

KTL 08-25-2011 09:37 AM

Doing good my friend. How's the family? :D

Yeah I suspect the fab work for the engine sheetmetal is tedious work to get good fitment around the base of the rear window frame. I was just curious to see how you dealt with replacing the rear deck area. My fab skills are pretty limited so i'm going to try to save as much of the horizontal deck area as possible. Thanks for sharing the additional pictures. Gives me some inspiration on how to tackle my sheetmetal work after cage and rear suspension modifications, whenever I ever get around to it.

How did the rear torsion tube/chassis wall reinforcement plates turn out? I am thinking of installing some of those when I get to my work, which will be shock tower reinforcing gussets and bars from the main hoop, bars from the bottom of the main hoop to the torsion tube and also the reinforcement plates


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