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911st 05-07-2009 04:07 PM

Crap!

Your motor is junk.

Might part it out for what is left that is any good and that migh not be much.

Looks like a rod did let loose.

I have thrown a rod three times but never that bad. Once on a 930 and twice on a 72 911S so I can understand how you may feel.

Get a used SC or Carrera and bolt thouse carbs up to it.

masraum 05-07-2009 04:08 PM

That sucks! My condolences mate!

m110 05-07-2009 04:33 PM

From the Blues Brothers

[A loud clunk is heard in Jake and Elwood's car.]

Elwood: Oh no!
Jake: What the f*** was that?
Elwood: The motor. Thrown a rod.
Jake: Is that serious?
Elwood: Yep.

aigel 05-07-2009 04:40 PM

Nut looks to be from the valve train. There are no nuts on the bottom end, AFAIK. Sorry to see the carnage.

Note that this will not qualify as a core engine if you go to a dismantler. If you are not willing to build something from scratch (or with what's left) I would disassemble and sell the good parts, then buy a good used engine to replace it. You can certainly disassemble this ok and have some fun doing it.

Best,

George

vreference 05-07-2009 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zorin (Post 4651269)

Does that look too small to be from a rod-cap? If that's what it is, it's presence at the bottom of the engine (as well as the conditions at time of failure) probably indicate the mode of failure. Improperly assembled. You would think those guys could build an engine by now just by way of handling so many of them.

vash 05-07-2009 04:44 PM

sucks bro. lots of good rebuilders here. supertec comes to mind.

911st 05-07-2009 04:47 PM

Case, one of more heads, crank, oil pump.

There is not much left.

Another Motormister success story?

zorin 05-07-2009 04:56 PM

Thanks for all the sympathies.
Should I go for a used engine or a rebuilt one? I no longer trust the rebuilt ones. I rather have a stock engine with documented compression test. Anything else I should check for when I am looking for a used engine? What do they usually come with? Approximate cost? Will my solex carbs work with any 3.0 L engine?

sjf911 05-07-2009 05:04 PM

Sorry to see that. Certainly looked like a rod failure from the beginning. It will be interesting if you can work out the failure sequence as you disassemble the engine and give us some idea of how MM condemned this engine from the beginning.

jkarolyi 05-07-2009 05:10 PM

Sad to see my prediction came true. :( How many miles were on this MM "rebuild"? You should take a video of the carnage and post it up on YouTube to counter MMs running customer engine videos.

In your case I would try to find a good used 3.0 "longblock", which is an assembled engine with heads, then swap the manifolds, carbs, and accessories onto it. Your Solex carbs are commonly called Zeniths if you want to search for info about them. They came on the 1970-71 911T with the 2.2 liter engine. Your carbs will work fine with your 3.0 provided they are jetted properly, which considering they likely came from MM also shouldn't be taken for granted. New jets are inexpensive and easily installed.

You seem to have a good attitude about this...at least YOU weren't the one who paid $15,000 for this engine "rebuild" only to have to pay again! And compared to most of the homeowners in California, the money you just lost is chump change. ;)

dtw 05-07-2009 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aigel (Post 4651350)
Nut looks to be from the valve train. There are no nuts on the bottom end, AFAIK.

I can think of 16...

This one's a rod nut. Can see the rod that let go in one of the pics.

May I gloat at the "road debris, call your ins. co." guys yet? I think I can :D

Zorin, sorry to see this, mate. I think your attitude has been admirable. We'd love to see detailed pics, every step of the way, of the disassembly.

dad911 05-07-2009 05:15 PM

Nothing wrong with a rebuilt from a credible source.

You need to make sure the oil lines, tank, thermostat, cooler... whole oiling system is spotless clean, no metal parts left from this damage in the oiling system, or your new engine will be trashed.

Aurel 05-07-2009 05:25 PM

I found a motor for you on ebay
(cheap but needs to be rebuilt)

aigel 05-07-2009 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vreference (Post 4651361)
Does that look too small to be from a rod-cap? If that's what it is, it's presence at the bottom of the engine (as well as the conditions at time of failure) probably indicate the mode of failure. Improperly assembled. You would think those guys could build an engine by now just by way of handling so many of them.

I think it is too flat to be from a rod bolt. Would be good if it's not, as it could mean that the valve train is still ok?

George

budge96 05-07-2009 06:04 PM

Geezz, where'd this nut come from? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO FLMAORONFL!!!!!!

christojen 05-07-2009 06:14 PM

I just want to say this is freakin bad luck.

Sorry to hear it.

Chris

sig_a 05-07-2009 06:33 PM

"Where did that nut come from?"
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My guess is a valve adjust jam nut.

Vibrates off, flows through oil return tube to sump/screen. Is it possible that started the whole chain of trouble?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1241749862.jpg

billybek 05-07-2009 06:38 PM

Sucks man....
Rip it down and see what is left...
Post a motor wanted ad in both the for sale and the Canadian regional forum.
To view it in a positive light, at least you have that MM monkey off your back!
Good luck with your search.

flipper 05-07-2009 07:01 PM

Hmmmmm, lets not even imagine MM using the wrong nut on a rod bolt.....
My stomach turn to see it. best of luck to you.
Shawn

Gogar 05-07-2009 07:10 PM

Sorry about your misfortune. :(

It is true, that disassembling that engine would be a great learning experience and we could look at your amazing pics.


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